Senior officer in Stephen Lawrence case was corrupt

Senior officer in Stephen Lawrence case was corrupt

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rohrl

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8,835 posts

151 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67372493

A senior officer involved in the Stephen Lawrence murder case was corrupt, according to a secret Met Police report uncovered by the BBC.
It said Ray Adams was cleared by a corruption probe which relied on false testimony from a man linked to the family of one of Stephen's killers.

Surprise surprise

Earthdweller

14,202 posts

132 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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There was so much st flying around that investigation and without doubt corruption from some, not all officers

There def seems to have been a significant issue in the CID in south east London at that time

Not the Met’s finest hour I could say an awful lot more about the family, the suspects and the police

The small minority ruin things for the rest and it’s terrible that the family never got the justice they deserved

bitchstewie

54,511 posts

216 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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I never quite understand how the Lawrence family show the dignity they have.

Astounding.

KAgantua

4,152 posts

137 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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It was really rotten to the core back then.

Byker28i

66,326 posts

223 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Met found to be corrupt again - non shocker really

carinaman

21,870 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Shaun Sawyer who was involved in Op Abelard II reportedly applied for the Commissioner role after Dick and reportedly wasn't invited for interview.

Dick was involved in a ethics oversight role on one of the investigations, possibly Op Abelard II. She attended one meeting that may've been about the £50K reward for information leading to a conviction.




Clive Driscoll who secured the convictions for the Lawrence murder seems to be a top chap:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXC6pVx_T-I


I may get around to reading the McPherson Inquiry report one day. I've owned a copy for over a decade.

Edited by carinaman on Thursday 16th November 12:01

Randy Winkman

17,269 posts

195 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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The Clive Driscoll book above is brilliant. The other one might be as well but I've not read it.

Derek Smith

46,331 posts

254 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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In the 70s and 80s, corruption was rife throughout the Met and City of London police forces. The degree of it was shocking. Anyone starting off in CID of either force had to run an obstacle course of traps set by the corrupt ones. These are little more than security. They get something over the newcomer, and mutual assured destruction protects the ones at the top. For those who haven't dipped in the well, there's always the threat of a fit-up or worse.

The pissups were purported to be for team building, and they were, I suppose, but for other reasons. Many would suggest that they would not work with a colleague who would not get drunk with them. The implication was obvious. Nackered me, what with being tee-total. I was partnered with a recovering alcoholic which, ironically, meant that as Xmas approached, we were the only totally sober ones on the floor.

The systems have changed to a significant degree, but if one goes back to the early 90s, these changes meant that those senior officers who were corrupt had taken retirement in order to avoid threats from enquiries and various changes of Commissioner of the Mets to clear the force of bent coppers. Those lower down the scale had, more or less, been allowed to stay. They would, by the 90s, be senior CID. Too few to return to the 'old days', but still with 'friends'.

NOT THAT I'M SUGGESTING THE OFFICER NAMED AS POSSIBLY CORRUPT IS ONE OF THE OLD SCHOOL, OR ACTUALLY CORRUPT.

To go after someone near the top of the tree has always been difficult. They can, and often do, circle the wagons. Mutual assured protection.

I've read a few books on police corruption in the 70s and 80s (none approached mine for sheer quality and entertainment of course) but the strange thing that's often common is that the authors suggest someone/thing/force was worse. One author, ex Met, 'exposing' the corrupt firm within a firm in the City police was adamant that Countryman would have been much more successful had the pristine Met run it rather than a county force. Yet he'd worked in the Met and must have been aware of the rampant corruption in various squads.


Edited by Derek Smith on Thursday 16th November 15:53

carinaman

21,870 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th November 2023
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Randy Winkman said:
The Clive Driscoll book above is brilliant. The other one might be as well but I've not read it.
The other one mentions Shaun Sawyer who reportedly applied for the met Job when Dick quit. He's mentioned in the book in relation to a Met anti-corruption unit.

The photo of Norris used by the BBC with the PA Media stamp in the OP's link seems like the one of him on page 718 of the book cradling a freshwater fish. I think it's more likely a Bream than a Carp.