Pat Condell

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W11PEL

Original Poster:

1,034 posts

169 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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I've been listening to this guys channel and he seems somewhat controversial.

I feel a bit uneasy listening to him. Some of the things he says could be interpreted in a negative light.

YouTube have pretty much cancelled him.

I'd like to think that anyone in the "Progressive West" should welcome any opinion as we are supposed to encourage free speech etc.

This seems to be a dying attribute which is a shame.

https://www.youtube.com/@patcondell

hidetheelephants

27,379 posts

199 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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He doesn't like islam much, nor religion generally. It rubs people up the wrong way, especially if presented with levity, although I'm not sure he says much that Christopher Hitchens and others haven't also said, but less scabrously. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequence, etc.

Cliftonite

8,480 posts

144 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Pat Condell's explanation re his dissatisfaction with YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=___bPIise_Q

JuanCarlosFandango

8,166 posts

77 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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He goes on a bit. Everyone knows Islam has its problems but I don't see how endless videos about it helps.

Expect this thread to liven up soon...

Rivenink

3,936 posts

112 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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W11PEL said:
I've been listening to this guys channel and he seems somewhat controversial.

I feel a bit uneasy listening to him. Some of the things he says could be interpreted in a negative light.

YouTube have pretty much cancelled him.

I'd like to think that anyone in the "Progressive West" should welcome any opinion as we are supposed to encourage free speech etc.

This seems to be a dying attribute which is a shame.

https://www.youtube.com/@patcondell
Opinions do not need to be welcomed.

A person should absolutely have the right to hold any opinion they like, and express it if they so wish.

But they have no right for that opinion to be listend to, no right for it to be hosted on media platforms, no right for it to be held above criticism, and no right to not be shunned by others for holding it.

An certainly no right for it to be welcomed.

Jasandjules

70,419 posts

235 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Freedom of speech means for views you disagree with as well as those you agree.

How would you feel if the "contrary" viewpoint was banned ?

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

162 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Is he still doing it? I recall listening to him a decade ago!

Countdown

41,661 posts

202 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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W11PEL said:
I've been listening to this guys channel and he seems somewhat controversial.

I feel a bit uneasy listening to him. Some of the things he says could be interpreted in a negative light.

YouTube have pretty much cancelled him.

I'd like to think that anyone in the "Progressive West" should welcome any opinion as we are supposed to encourage free speech etc.

This seems to be a dying attribute which is a shame.

https://www.youtube.com/@patcondell
Plenty of places where I'm sure he'd be welcomed with open arms - Gab, Rumble, Telegram......