Rip off Britain

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Ankh87

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842 posts

109 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Friends have just been to Canary islands and said how much cheaper it is for fuel. They rented a car to go around the island and petrol was €1.20! Now why can't Britain have that price? If an island that has to import fuel just like Britain can do it, then doesn't it just prove that we're getting ripped off?

I feel that the government won't lower the price because they are on their Green agenda. Which I don't hate EVs as I'll be buying an EV or greener car in the future.

ConnectionError

1,948 posts

76 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Taxation

To pay for everything we expect handed to us on a plate

Blib

45,435 posts

204 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Fuel's roughly the same today, in Paris.


LRDefender

241 posts

15 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Diesel is around £1.00 a litre here in Georgia and the roads are appalling in places (I had a rather lengthy off road diversion the other day as a had bridge collapsed into a river). Whilst we might feel we’re getting ripped off I think a bit of extra taxation is worthwhile.

Let us not forget though that all money generated through taxation does have to be spent very wisely though.

Ankh87

Original Poster:

842 posts

109 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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LRDefender said:
Diesel is around £1.00 a litre here in Georgia and the roads are appalling in places (I had a rather lengthy off road diversion the other day as a had bridge collapsed into a river). Whilst we might feel we’re getting ripped off I think a bit of extra taxation is worthwhile.

Let us not forget though that all money generated through taxation does have to be spent very wisely though.
Britain doesn't spend it visely nor does it actually spend it on the roads. They waste a lot of money on things like bus lanes or cycle lanes that rarely get used if at all.

sidewinder500

1,409 posts

101 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Don't ask, it's worse in germany

LRDefender

241 posts

15 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Ankh87 said:
LRDefender said:
Diesel is around £1.00 a litre here in Georgia and the roads are appalling in places (I had a rather lengthy off road diversion the other day as a bridge collapsed into a river). Whilst we might feel we’re getting ripped off I think a bit of extra taxation is worthwhile.

Let us not forget though that all money generated through taxation does have to be spent very wisely though.
Britain doesn't spend it visely nor does it actually spend it on the roads. They waste a lot of money on things like bus lanes or cycle lanes that rarely get used if at all.
I agree to a degree.

When I travel to somewhere like the Nederland's and see how well their bus and cycle lanes are planned and built it makes me despair of the way the U.K spends our tax money. HS2 is another example and I could go on & on.

If we had a fabulous network of cycle lanes and bus lanes that the general public wanted to use and felt safe doing so just imagine how many cars would be taken off the roads!

TarquinMX5

2,064 posts

87 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Don't forget we also give money to 'developing' countries to help them improve: you know, the sort of countries where some people use food banks, where their roads are in poor condition, where their health service is sub-optimal, dental provision is lacking, where their water infrastructure is not fit for purpose, where integrated public transport is just a dream, that sort of thing.

We also advise them how to run major infrastructure products in such a way that minimises cost, all part of the overall service we provide.

Den Den

272 posts

26 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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TarquinMX5 said:
Don't forget we also give money to 'developing' countries to help them improve: you know, the sort of countries where some people use food banks, where their roads are in poor condition, where their health service is sub-optimal, dental provision is lacking, where their water infrastructure is not fit for purpose, where integrated public transport is just a dream, that sort of thing.

We also advise them how to run major infrastructure products in such a way that minimises cost, all part of the overall service we provide.
hehe

dcb

5,912 posts

272 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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LRDefender said:
Diesel is around £1.00 a litre here in Georgia and the roads are appalling in places (I had a rather lengthy off road diversion the other day as a had bridge collapsed into a river). Whilst we might feel we’re getting ripped off I think a bit of extra taxation is worthwhile.

Let us not forget though that all money generated through taxation does have to be spent very wisely though.
The USA does have the sensible system that taxes on the motorist has to be spent on things
for the motorist, like roads.

The UK just has motoring taxes going into a general pot. Much less fair.

Most of the UK price of fuel is taxation, but for that we get an NHS that has the longest ever queues
(nearly 8 million procedures).




CoolHands

19,471 posts

202 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Tax to pay fo fall the scrotes! + green bks + covid waste + India space programme

bowtie

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

163 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Ankh87 said:
Friends have just been to Canary islands and said how much cheaper it is for fuel. They rented a car to go around the island and petrol was €1.20! Now why can't Britain have that price? If an island that has to import fuel just like Britain can do it, then doesn't it just prove that we're getting ripped off?

I feel that the government won't lower the price because they are on their Green agenda. Which I don't hate EVs as I'll be buying an EV or greener car in the future.
Tenerife must be a special case because I spend a lot of time in Madrid and it was roughly €1.80 in September...

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

163 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Sheets Tabuer

19,648 posts

222 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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It's because the Government want to round this up to the nearest 100m.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-brie...


brillomaster

1,398 posts

177 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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good map, thanks for that. next time i need to drive on the continent, i'll be sure to divert and fill up in luxembourg!

Ultra Sound Guy

28,806 posts

201 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Taxation is the controlling factor when it comes to fuel pricing.
The best (worst?) example I’ve seen of this was on a recent trip to USA.
The price of fuel in Honolulu was double the price of equivalent fuels in South Carolina!

xx99xx

2,252 posts

80 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Ankh87 said:
Britain doesn't spend it visely nor does it actually spend it on the roads. They waste a lot of money on things like bus lanes or cycle lanes that rarely get used if at all.
I guess that's what elections are for, to vote in a government that has a taxation plan you agree with. Well, it's a nice theory but whoever's in charge isn't going to please everyone.


tight fart

3,084 posts

280 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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In the uk the true price of a gallon of petrol for a hi rate taxpayer is around £15, that’s how much they have to earn to pay for £3.65 worth of fuel.
Earn £15, take home around £7.50, tax on £7.50 of fuel approx 50%.

Earthdweller

14,406 posts

133 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Ankh87 said:
Friends have just been to Canary islands and said how much cheaper it is for fuel. They rented a car to go around the island and petrol was €1.20! Now why can't Britain have that price? If an island that has to import fuel just like Britain can do it, then doesn't it just prove that we're getting ripped off?

I feel that the government won't lower the price because they are on their Green agenda. Which I don't hate EVs as I'll be buying an EV or greener car in the future.
It’s a special tax zone with much lower rates than the rest of Spain to try and promote the island’s economies, you’ll find petrol way more expensive on mainland Spain

Zona especial canarias

soxboy

6,774 posts

226 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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GroundEffect said:
Tenerife must be a special case because I spend a lot of time in Madrid and it was roughly €1.80 in September...
Fuel is cheaper in the Canaries than mainland Spain due to massive government subsidies to make up for the crap wages and lack of opportunities outside tourism.