Restaurant Fee for misbehaving kids

Restaurant Fee for misbehaving kids

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Tommo87

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4,725 posts

120 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Not the UK and possibly a marmite idea.

This restaurant has a charge listed on the menu IF your children are misbehaving and you don’t stop them.

https://news.sky.com/story/restaurant-charges-extr...


Of course, the people who have been caught are claiming that their kids were absolute angels.

It caught my attention as we were having a carvery yesterday and I saw loads of families this would have caught.


HTP99

23,308 posts

147 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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"My kids watched a tablet until the food arrived, ate their food and my wife took them outside while I waited and paid the bill."

"The kids were sitting at one end of the table, and they were being so good."

Says it all, ok tablets weren't around when my kids were young, however we conversed with ours, we included them in our meals out, my grandma always comments on how good my grandson is when out for a meal, he's never sat, watching some crap on a tablet, away from the adults, he is included, he is asked questions, he asks questions and chats to everyone.

bad company

19,490 posts

273 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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From the menu:-

Gratuity of 18% may be added to parties over 6, separate checks, Birthday Menu
Adult surcharge: For adults unable to parent $$$
Share charge $3
Be Respectful to staff, property, and self. No Respect, No Service.

Best avoided with kids or no kids imo.

Ziplobb

1,411 posts

291 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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I cant imagine why you would take kids out to a restaurant and give them a tablet to keep them amused. How can they learn how to behave and some manners around others unless the parents interact with them ?

Silvanus

6,063 posts

30 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Ziplobb said:
I cant imagine why you would take kids out to a restaurant and give them a tablet to keep them amused. How can they learn how to behave and some manners around others unless the parents interact with them ?
Welcome to modern parenting

Triumph Man

8,886 posts

175 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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HTP99 said:
my grandma always comments on how good my grandson is when out for a meal
Wow that's quite incredible to have a great great grandparent smile

On another note, when we take our toddler out, she can get grumpy at times but food usually sorts that! We give her colouring to do, or toys. Sometimes my wife or I will take her for a walk around wherever we are if she gets restless. We will also try to clean up any mess she's left (she's 20 months old) as it's unfair for the restaurant staff to have to deal with it.


HTP99

23,308 posts

147 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Triumph Man said:
HTP99 said:
my grandma always comments on how good my grandson is when out for a meal
Wow that's quite incredible to have a great great grandparent smile

On another note, when we take our toddler out, she can get grumpy at times but food usually sorts that! We give her colouring to do, or toys. Sometimes my wife or I will take her for a walk around wherever we are if she gets restless. We will also try to clean up any mess she's left (she's 20 months old) as it's unfair for the restaurant staff to have to deal with it.
Yep, she is 102, still as sharp as a tack, has her own flat in a warden assisted block but is totally independent, still walks to town daily for her paper and shopping, my grandson is 10, both the wife and myself were very young parents.

My sister is the sort of parent who's kids were a nightmare (they are older now so better), always left a mess and generally just buggered about, my grandma would take them out to the Harvester, she's always taken us and my grandson to a local independent Italian.

pavarotti1980

5,467 posts

91 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Silvanus said:
Welcome to modern parenting
Or do like my brother did with his daughter (my niece)

go out for a meal when a baby or very small. Take nothing but a change bag to keep her entertained but expect everyone else but them to be occupied by her at the table so they can have a break.....cheeky tts

theboss

7,126 posts

226 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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It was nice to have a lady of about 60, another customer at a gastropub we were lunching at, come over to our table on Saturday and complement our 3-year-old son's behaviour, and she commented particularly on how engaged he was with both of us for the last 90 minutes.

We were both a little puzzled by that comment at first, whilst he'd been perfectly good he'd still needed to be settled a few times e.g. after getting ideas about trying to leave the table and run around.

I commented to my wife, that perhaps the woman was genuinely surprised, we might not notice it so directly as parents but perhaps these days it's a shock for people without children / older generations to observe a young child that age in an adult environment who isn't either bouncing off the walls or pacified with a device.

(and yes he kicked off just after this lady left the building biggrin but we were leaving at that point)

J4CKO

42,881 posts

207 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Was in New York, paid for a meal after a couple of strong IPA's, the waiter passed me the card machine, select to add gratuity it said with different levels of contribution, I looked at the receipt he brought and it said Gratuity 18%, was about $40, so I queried it and he said "Oh thats for if you want to add an additional gratuity" !

So, Another $40 plus dollars on top of the $40 they add by default, now I dont mind giving a tip but like £70 for bringing 8 plates of food and 12 drinks seems rather excessive.

So, watch this, I dont mind paying a tip but to be honest he wasnt getting much as he brought the complete wrong beers and got a bit sniffy when we pointed it out, flounced off and said "suppose will tip them down the drain then", well yeah, do that.

As for badly behaving kids, definite opportunity to get some front page news when you penalise the parents of an Autistic child who has a meltdown.

BoRED S2upid

20,348 posts

247 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Ziplobb said:
I cant imagine why you would take kids out to a restaurant and give them a tablet to keep them amused. How can they learn how to behave and some manners around others unless the parents interact with them ?
To be honest I’ve no idea why you would put yourself through it as parents full stop. They don’t want to be sat there for 2 hours and it’s no fun you being sat there worrying that they will ruin someone else’s meal. I’ve done it in the summer when you can sit outside and the kids can run around in a beer garden but restaurants nah save that for when you have a baby sitter.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

115 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Leaving aside all the parenting gurus in the thread, this is a stupid idea. I don't even have kids and this would put me off going to the restaurant.

Jasandjules

70,506 posts

236 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Ziplobb said:
I cant imagine why you would take kids out to a restaurant and give them a tablet to keep them amused. How can they learn how to behave and some manners around others unless the parents interact with them ?
Have you been to a Theme Park? There are kids walking around there with their faces glued to a screen.

Countdown

42,086 posts

203 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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At the risk of outing myself as a bad dad my kids will have their mobile phones with them, and look at them if they're a bit bored, or waiting between courses or whatever. i don't think it's the be-all and end-all. However (even though i say so myself) their behaviour is impeccable.

So the fee for misbehaving kids wouldn't bother me. if it means that people with naughty kids are going to be put off then win-win biggrin

The Hypno-Toad

12,687 posts

212 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Much as I would like that charge to exist in the UK, I think it would be unenforceable and would lead to massive amounts of negative internet reviews even if it was mentioned ("How dare they even suggest such a thing! MY KIDS ARE PERFECT!")

What I would like is a charge for anyone who behaves like a dick.

I went to a restaurant about a year ago. On a table directly across from me was a family clearly trying to have a nice Sunday dinner. Mum, dad, some young kids and the grandparents. The kids were perfectly well behaved and I would imagine the family were having a lovely time until....

Three lads wander in (having parked their Bentley SUV directly across the actual entrance to the restaurant.), grab the table next door to this family and start trying to draw attention to themselves in a clearly self medicated blizzard of swearing. After ordering their food, they then proceeded to yell at each other in graphic detail about who they shagged last night, how they had shagged her and who else they planning to shag during the week. The late 20s year old manager tried to calm them down but she was basically fighting a losing battle as "They were only having a laugh,"

All within direct earshot of this family.... which included kids between 8 to 13..... and a grandparent who was clearly recovering from an extensive medical treatment.

As they were clearly Caravan Using Nomadic Tourists, I very much doubt they actual paid for their meal in the end anyway so fining them probably wouldn't work but maybe a banning order?

Just systematic of the way the worlds going I guess...


Hol

8,736 posts

207 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Ziplobb said:
I cant imagine why you would take kids out to a restaurant and give them a tablet to keep them amused. How can they learn how to behave and some manners around others unless the parents interact with them ?
Did you notice that there was no mention of headphones in that quote excuse.

I am picturing some form of cartoon/YouTube video playing in the background whilst the rest of the restaurant were trying to eat.


So, good for the restaurant and tough luck for all the centre of the universe Z lister types.

Hol

8,736 posts

207 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Countdown said:
At the risk of outing myself as a bad dad my kids will have their mobile phones with them, and look at them if they're a bit bored, or waiting between courses or whatever. i don't think it's the be-all and end-all. However (even though i say so myself) their behaviour is impeccable.

So the fee for misbehaving kids wouldn't bother me. if it means that people with naughty kids are going to be put off then win-win biggrin
Agree.
Before they got mobiles we would amuse my kids with toys or a colouring book at restaurants.

It really is a win if they stay away.

JackJarvis

2,572 posts

141 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Loving all the comments from parenting experts.

Try adopting two children with behavioural issues and on the very rare occasion you go out for a meal, leave their tablets at home. I guarantee you won't do it twice wink

Tommo87

Original Poster:

4,725 posts

120 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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JackJarvis said:
Loving all the comments from parenting experts.

Try adopting two children with behavioural issues and on the very rare occasion you go out for a meal, leave their tablets at home. I guarantee you won't do it twice wink
That must be fun on an airplane flight where you don’t have any other choice.

What do you do, when they decide that they want to walk around?

JackJarvis

2,572 posts

141 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Tommo87 said:
JackJarvis said:
Loving all the comments from parenting experts.

Try adopting two children with behavioural issues and on the very rare occasion you go out for a meal, leave their tablets at home. I guarantee you won't do it twice wink
That must be fun on an airplane flight where you don’t have any other choice.

What do you do, when they decide that they want to walk around?
We've not faced that challenge yet, got a holiday booked for next June so I'll let you know then laugh