Police to treat shoplifting like organised crime

Police to treat shoplifting like organised crime

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s1962a

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5,725 posts

169 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67191793

The whatabouttery in that article is giving me a headache. Does this mean that if someone calls the police for theft they will actually turn up?

bigandclever

13,949 posts

245 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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Probably not, unless they plan on adding some actual police officers and get rid of the investigation-starter-for-ten£200 threshold. Though to put 60 grand investment by each retailer into context, 'we' lose many, many tens of millions a year through stock loss, so unless being caught on CCTV is suddenly, magically, terrifying for the shoplifters it'll be pissing in the wind. Good use case for the creep of face recognition tech for the authorities, though, if you're conspiracy-minded.

voyds9

8,489 posts

290 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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Reads to me that the police want more money to do the job they are already paid to do because you know resources



untakenname

5,052 posts

199 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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article said:
The majority of the money will finance a specialist police team that will work within OPAL, the national policing division that oversees intelligence on serious organised acquisitive crime.

The Home Office said the team was being put together to "build a comprehensive intelligence picture of the organised crime gangs that fuel many shoplifting incidents across the country, to help target and dismantle them".

The government will contribute £30,000 in the first year.
Have they missed off a couple of zero's from that budget?

They just need to jail them, guarantee all the prolific shoplifters will have been charged and convicted of dozens of prior offences but will have been given suspended sentences.

Al Gorithum

4,204 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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This is a dog whistle for Tory idiots.

Where are the Police numbers to investigate/catch the criminals? Where are the courts and Barristers to deal with it? Where are the prisons to incarcerate them? Clue: Tories decimated Police numbers, closed courts, pissed off Barristers and the prisons are overcrowded.

It's almost as if they're desperate to say something positive after 13 years of decline and there's an election coming up...

crankedup5

10,778 posts

42 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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Good positive news keep coming regarding shoplifting, the BBC news announcement tonight said that if the shoplifter is detained police will attend the incident.

Feeling brave or foolhardy.

Mr Whippy

29,939 posts

248 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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So possibly mostly random shoplifting from businesses, bad. But some might be SOC.

But possibly mostly SOC stealing expensive cars for export around SE UK, leave it to insurers?


WTAF?

Stedman

7,288 posts

199 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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Al Gorithum said:
This is a dog whistle for Tory idiots.

Where are the Police numbers to investigate/catch the criminals? Where are the courts and Barristers to deal with it? Where are the prisons to incarcerate them? Clue: Tories decimated Police numbers, closed courts, pissed off Barristers and the prisons are overcrowded.

It's almost as if they're desperate to say something positive after 13 years of decline and there's an election coming up...
Thank you. This has saved me typing a great deal

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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"There will be a zero tolerence to shoplifting." said some loony policing minister. If you believe that, wake up!

Sticks.

9,016 posts

258 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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OP's title would be more accurate without the word organised.

greygoose

8,644 posts

202 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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Al Gorithum said:
This is a dog whistle for Tory idiots.

Where are the Police numbers to investigate/catch the criminals? Where are the courts and Barristers to deal with it? Where are the prisons to incarcerate them? Clue: Tories decimated Police numbers, closed courts, pissed off Barristers and the prisons are overcrowded.

It's almost as if they're desperate to say something positive after 13 years of decline and there's an election coming up...
Exactly, well said.

Rivenink

3,936 posts

113 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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Al Gorithum said:
This is a dog whistle for Tory idiots.

Where are the Police numbers to investigate/catch the criminals? Where are the courts and Barristers to deal with it? Where are the prisons to incarcerate them? Clue: Tories decimated Police numbers, closed courts, pissed off Barristers and the prisons are overcrowded.

It's almost as if they're desperate to say something positive after 13 years of decline and there's an election coming up...
But there is always someone to point out how a police force spent a few £k putting a rainbow on one of their squad cars, and let off duty police officers wear their uniforms in a pride parade in a idiotic attempt to suggest the police are too busy being woke to cattch criminals.


anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 23rd October 2023
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But they closed the courts to streamline the service, invest in technology and ensure cases got dealt with quicker!

crankedup5

10,778 posts

42 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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Problem solved, shopkeepers will fund their own ‘policing service’ in an attempt to ensure that their offers for sale are paid for. Of course that means the community that already pay for a police service now also pay for a ‘private police service’ within the cost of their shopping.

crankedup5

10,778 posts

42 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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voyds9 said:
Reads to me that the police want more money to do the job they are already paid to do because you know resources


rofl

Hants PHer

6,036 posts

118 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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crankedup5 said:
Problem solved, shopkeepers will fund their own ‘policing service’ in an attempt to ensure that their offers for sale are paid for. Of course that means the community that already pay for a police service now also pay for a ‘private police service’ within the cost of their shopping.
That's how it will go over the next few years. Those with the means to pay for private provision where the state is failing will do so. That might be private security for shop owners and home owners, it already means private dentists and GP's and education, and many other things. Businesses that cannot afford such private provision might close.

In other words, a two tier society, but even more than it is currently. It won't matter whether the next government is blue or red: neither of them have the faintest idea how to stimulate the economic growth that would be needed to properly fund public services.

BigMon

4,712 posts

136 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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Another load of cobblers 'initiative' from the incumbent muppet brigade which crumbles like shortbread when a scintilla of scrutiny is applied to it.

anonymous-user

61 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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This sounds silly until you ask yourself "how do the police treat organised crime?" scratchchin

tangerine_sedge

5,180 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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Al Gorithum said:
This is a dog whistle for Tory idiots.

Where are the Police numbers to investigate/catch the criminals? Where are the courts and Barristers to deal with it? Where are the prisons to incarcerate them? Clue: Tories decimated Police numbers, closed courts, pissed off Barristers and the prisons are overcrowded.

It's almost as if they're desperate to say something positive after 13 years of decline and there's an election coming up...
This is obvious to anyone with a scintilla of intelligence, yet the dog whistle seems to work for the few who keep the blue flame alive.

ettore

4,324 posts

259 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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Wish they could treat organised crime like organised crime - would save on our Range Rover insurance!