Policing of pro Palestinian marches
Discussion
this isn't about the rights or wrongs of the conflict in Israel, people are entitled to their views and to be sympathetic to one or the other side.
However what is the feeling about the way the police, especially the Met have policed the gatherings. Some of the speeches seem to be a bit OTT and according to Talk TV, or was it GB News, the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
I know the police are in a difficult position and need to tread carefully but they also need to apply the law# equally.
However what is the feeling about the way the police, especially the Met have policed the gatherings. Some of the speeches seem to be a bit OTT and according to Talk TV, or was it GB News, the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
I know the police are in a difficult position and need to tread carefully but they also need to apply the law# equally.
We have a small ( relatively ) unarmed Police service with no paramilitary capability and an ethos of policing by consent
Our peer nations, other than Ireland, police by authority and command
The Met mustered 1k police to control umpteen 1000’s of angry protesters.. to say that it only involves 7 arrests and no significant disorder is a WIN on the day
The U.K. are very good at Evidence gathering and arresting offernders post event
In New York, comparable size, the NYPD put 48k officers on the street on Saturday in uniform
In France there has been serious disorder, likewise Germany and they have Police forces three times the size of the U.K. with large paramilitary elements
Really I don’t think the U.K. and in particular the Met deserve criticism in this case as the number 1 priority is keeping the peace and it seems they succeeded very well on Saturday
As for GB News reports let’s just take them with a pinch of salt
Our peer nations, other than Ireland, police by authority and command
The Met mustered 1k police to control umpteen 1000’s of angry protesters.. to say that it only involves 7 arrests and no significant disorder is a WIN on the day
The U.K. are very good at Evidence gathering and arresting offernders post event
In New York, comparable size, the NYPD put 48k officers on the street on Saturday in uniform
In France there has been serious disorder, likewise Germany and they have Police forces three times the size of the U.K. with large paramilitary elements
Really I don’t think the U.K. and in particular the Met deserve criticism in this case as the number 1 priority is keeping the peace and it seems they succeeded very well on Saturday
As for GB News reports let’s just take them with a pinch of salt
Oliver Hardy said:
this isn't about the rights or wrongs of the conflict in Israel, people are entitled to their views and to be sympathetic to one or the other side.
However what is the feeling about the way the police, especially the Met have policed the gatherings. Some of the speeches seem to be a bit OTT and according to Talk TV, or was it GB News, the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
I know the police are in a difficult position and need to tread carefully but they also need to apply the law# equally.
Best ignore GB News.However what is the feeling about the way the police, especially the Met have policed the gatherings. Some of the speeches seem to be a bit OTT and according to Talk TV, or was it GB News, the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
I know the police are in a difficult position and need to tread carefully but they also need to apply the law# equally.
S600BSB said:
Oliver Hardy said:
this isn't about the rights or wrongs of the conflict in Israel, people are entitled to their views and to be sympathetic to one or the other side.
However what is the feeling about the way the police, especially the Met have policed the gatherings. Some of the speeches seem to be a bit OTT and according to Talk TV, or was it GB News, the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
I know the police are in a difficult position and need to tread carefully but they also need to apply the law# equally.
Best ignore GB News.However what is the feeling about the way the police, especially the Met have policed the gatherings. Some of the speeches seem to be a bit OTT and according to Talk TV, or was it GB News, the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
I know the police are in a difficult position and need to tread carefully but they also need to apply the law# equally.
Oliver Hardy said:
the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
Is that the one where the door was smashed and the till taken?The Met have recorded a huge increase in hate crimes recently, not just anti-Semitic but islamaphobic as well. To suggest it's being reported and not recorded is a bit daft.
bigandclever said:
Oliver Hardy said:
the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
Is that the one where the door was smashed and the till taken?The Met have recorded a huge increase in hate crimes recently, not just anti-Semitic but islamaphobic as well. To suggest it's being reported and not recorded is a bit daft.
Earthdweller said:
We have a small ( relatively ) unarmed Police service with no paramilitary capability and an ethos of policing by consent
Our peer nations, other than Ireland, police by authority and command
The Met mustered 1k police to control umpteen 1000’s of angry protesters.. to say that it only involves 7 arrests and no significant disorder is a WIN on the day
The U.K. are very good at Evidence gathering and arresting offernders post event
In New York, comparable size, the NYPD put 48k officers on the street on Saturday in uniform
In France there has been serious disorder, likewise Germany and they have Police forces three times the size of the U.K. with large paramilitary elements
Really I don’t think the U.K. and in particular the Met deserve criticism in this case as the number 1 priority is keeping the peace and it seems they succeeded very well on Saturday
As for GB News reports let’s just take them with a pinch of salt
Sounds good, until you see the same police force harassing people for a Facebook post, "by consent" of course. Our peer nations, other than Ireland, police by authority and command
The Met mustered 1k police to control umpteen 1000’s of angry protesters.. to say that it only involves 7 arrests and no significant disorder is a WIN on the day
The U.K. are very good at Evidence gathering and arresting offernders post event
In New York, comparable size, the NYPD put 48k officers on the street on Saturday in uniform
In France there has been serious disorder, likewise Germany and they have Police forces three times the size of the U.K. with large paramilitary elements
Really I don’t think the U.K. and in particular the Met deserve criticism in this case as the number 1 priority is keeping the peace and it seems they succeeded very well on Saturday
As for GB News reports let’s just take them with a pinch of salt
greygoose said:
S600BSB said:
Oliver Hardy said:
this isn't about the rights or wrongs of the conflict in Israel, people are entitled to their views and to be sympathetic to one or the other side.
However what is the feeling about the way the police, especially the Met have policed the gatherings. Some of the speeches seem to be a bit OTT and according to Talk TV, or was it GB News, the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
I know the police are in a difficult position and need to tread carefully but they also need to apply the law# equally.
Best ignore GB News.However what is the feeling about the way the police, especially the Met have policed the gatherings. Some of the speeches seem to be a bit OTT and according to Talk TV, or was it GB News, the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
I know the police are in a difficult position and need to tread carefully but they also need to apply the law# equally.
Actually arrested for punching someone in the face. But never let the facts get in the way of an opportunity to milk the credulous.
President Merkin said:
greygoose said:
S600BSB said:
Oliver Hardy said:
this isn't about the rights or wrongs of the conflict in Israel, people are entitled to their views and to be sympathetic to one or the other side.
However what is the feeling about the way the police, especially the Met have policed the gatherings. Some of the speeches seem to be a bit OTT and according to Talk TV, or was it GB News, the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
I know the police are in a difficult position and need to tread carefully but they also need to apply the law# equally.
Best ignore GB News.However what is the feeling about the way the police, especially the Met have policed the gatherings. Some of the speeches seem to be a bit OTT and according to Talk TV, or was it GB News, the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
I know the police are in a difficult position and need to tread carefully but they also need to apply the law# equally.
Actually arrested for punching someone in the face. But never let the facts get in the way of an opportunity to milk the credulous.
Or was incorrect?
Has he posted an apology yet for being wrong?
Timothy Bucktu said:
Police statement here...
https://youtu.be/pDZJmWzsDvE?si=KtN-WJP4Di6grZaM
Or perhaps even … https://youtu.be/pDZJmWzsDvE?si=KtN-WJP4Di6grZaM
Earthdweller said:
We have a small ( relatively ) unarmed Police service with no paramilitary capability and an ethos of policing by consent
Our peer nations, other than Ireland, police by authority and command
The Met mustered 1k police to control umpteen 1000’s of angry protesters.. to say that it only involves 7 arrests and no significant disorder is a WIN on the day
The U.K. are very good at Evidence gathering and arresting offernders post event
In New York, comparable size, the NYPD put 48k officers on the street on Saturday in uniform
In France there has been serious disorder, likewise Germany and they have Police forces three times the size of the U.K. with large paramilitary elements
Really I don’t think the U.K. and in particular the Met deserve criticism in this case as the number 1 priority is keeping the peace and it seems they succeeded very well on Saturday
As for GB News reports let’s just take them with a pinch of salt
Totally agree, although the Met will probably be out today apologising for the conduct of its officers regardless. Our peer nations, other than Ireland, police by authority and command
The Met mustered 1k police to control umpteen 1000’s of angry protesters.. to say that it only involves 7 arrests and no significant disorder is a WIN on the day
The U.K. are very good at Evidence gathering and arresting offernders post event
In New York, comparable size, the NYPD put 48k officers on the street on Saturday in uniform
In France there has been serious disorder, likewise Germany and they have Police forces three times the size of the U.K. with large paramilitary elements
Really I don’t think the U.K. and in particular the Met deserve criticism in this case as the number 1 priority is keeping the peace and it seems they succeeded very well on Saturday
As for GB News reports let’s just take them with a pinch of salt
DSLiverpool said:
At 59 this is most (the only) time I’ve been concerned being Jewish in the U.K.
So much so I’m thinking of changing my company name which is my surname.
Sad worrying times as we continued to amass an anti Jewish army here arriving both legally and illegally.
I don't think the vast majority of people attending the marches are anti-semitic (my daughter was at the London march, along with some of her Uni mates).So much so I’m thinking of changing my company name which is my surname.
Sad worrying times as we continued to amass an anti Jewish army here arriving both legally and illegally.
FWIW she mentioned that there were a lot of jewish people there as well.
President Merkin said:
greygoose said:
S600BSB said:
Oliver Hardy said:
this isn't about the rights or wrongs of the conflict in Israel, people are entitled to their views and to be sympathetic to one or the other side.
However what is the feeling about the way the police, especially the Met have policed the gatherings. Some of the speeches seem to be a bit OTT and according to Talk TV, or was it GB News, the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
I know the police are in a difficult position and need to tread carefully but they also need to apply the law# equally.
Best ignore GB News.However what is the feeling about the way the police, especially the Met have policed the gatherings. Some of the speeches seem to be a bit OTT and according to Talk TV, or was it GB News, the police have refused to log crimes as hate crimes such as the vandalise of the Jewish owned restaurant.
I know the police are in a difficult position and need to tread carefully but they also need to apply the law# equally.
Actually arrested for punching someone in the face. But never let the facts get in the way of an opportunity to milk the credulous.
Earthdweller said:
We have a small ( relatively ) unarmed Police service with no paramilitary capability and an ethos of policing by consent
Our peer nations, other than Ireland, police by authority and command
The Met mustered 1k police to control umpteen 1000’s of angry protesters.. to say that it only involves 7 arrests and no significant disorder is a WIN on the day
The U.K. are very good at Evidence gathering and arresting offernders post event
In New York, comparable size, the NYPD put 48k officers on the street on Saturday in uniform
In France there has been serious disorder, likewise Germany and they have Police forces three times the size of the U.K. with large paramilitary elements
Really I don’t think the U.K. and in particular the Met deserve criticism in this case as the number 1 priority is keeping the peace and it seems they succeeded very well on Saturday
As for GB News reports let’s just take them with a pinch of salt
Well said. There are many things the Met do which can be criticised but from what I've read in the reports and seen on TV, their international reputation for effective demo policing was supported by the way they dealt with a demo yesterday.Our peer nations, other than Ireland, police by authority and command
The Met mustered 1k police to control umpteen 1000’s of angry protesters.. to say that it only involves 7 arrests and no significant disorder is a WIN on the day
The U.K. are very good at Evidence gathering and arresting offernders post event
In New York, comparable size, the NYPD put 48k officers on the street on Saturday in uniform
In France there has been serious disorder, likewise Germany and they have Police forces three times the size of the U.K. with large paramilitary elements
Really I don’t think the U.K. and in particular the Met deserve criticism in this case as the number 1 priority is keeping the peace and it seems they succeeded very well on Saturday
As for GB News reports let’s just take them with a pinch of salt
To be fair, part of the reason they can police with just 1K or so is that British demonstrators are, as a whole, quite cooperative. The number that have resulted in violence is very small compared to most other countries, and even then it's normally just a minority.
They did well it seems. I don't know how much credence to give to the report by Farage - oh, wait, yes I do. No need to comment on that.
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