Stolen Ferraris

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Saleen836

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Southerner

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59 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Presumably destined for Southampton docks? Seems a lucky catch!

119

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43 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Security & protocol around car exports in Southampton is fairly high level so less and less are making it out the country, at least in one piece.

MrBogSmith

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41 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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I was told by an insurance broker there’s a demand in Russia (due to the sanctions) for cars that would never usually be stolen, like Ferraris.

Whilst it’s mainly London-focused crime, it has pushed up insurance prices in cities massively.


Wills2

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182 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Agreed on the Russian connection, cutting off their supply of expensive cars was always going to lead to criminal gangs coming over to meet that demand, closer you are to the southern ports the better.




Spare tyre

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137 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Right by my gaff, lots of strange goings on in last few weeks

normalbloke

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226 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Allington Lane. It has always been host to many festering caravan utilising not so nomadic travelers. Add to that some of the scrappiest businesses too.

Gareth79

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253 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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normalbloke said:
Allington Lane. It has always been host to many festering caravan utilising not so nomadic travelers. Add to that some of the scrappiest businesses too.
Good boot sale there though. Quite possibly related biggrin

The photo appears to have been taken opposite a scrappy shed/workshop unit which has both car repairs and "haulage", so could have been either involved.

L1OFF

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263 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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I used to have an industrial unit in Allington Lane, my younger brother a scrapyard. Some interesting people in that neck of the woods.

defblade

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220 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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normalbloke said:
Allington Lane. It has always been host to many festering caravan utilising not so nomadic travelers. Add to that some of the scrappiest businesses too.
Loved Allington Lane back in my younger days. Best scrappie in the area, great driving road too until they brought the limit down and down...

thegreenhell

17,282 posts

226 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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Wills2 said:
Agreed on the Russian connection, cutting off their supply of expensive cars was always going to lead to criminal gangs coming over to meet that demand, closer you are to the southern ports the better.
Why would they go after RHD cars though? You'd have thought continental LHD cars would be better suited and easier to transport without needing to cross the Channel.

FNG

4,382 posts

231 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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There's a remarkable number of RHD car parts available on eBay from Lithuania.

Of course, they might be mad for RHD motors over there.

Or perhaps that's where lots of prestige brand stolen cars end up, to sell back to us as parts.

vaud

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162 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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FNG said:
There's a remarkable number of RHD car parts available on eBay from Lithuania.

Of course, they might be mad for RHD motors over there.

Or perhaps that's where lots of prestige brand stolen cars end up, to sell back to us as parts.
I thought this had been discussed before and there was a feeling that they take wrecks from the UK in bulk and as they have a very low cost of labour they can still make the economics work?

Wills2

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182 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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thegreenhell said:
Wills2 said:
Agreed on the Russian connection, cutting off their supply of expensive cars was always going to lead to criminal gangs coming over to meet that demand, closer you are to the southern ports the better.
Why would they go after RHD cars though? You'd have thought continental LHD cars would be better suited and easier to transport without needing to cross the Channel.
Happening all over Europe as well, RHD will obviously be at a discount to a LHD one sourced in Germany.



mikey_b

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52 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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thegreenhell said:
Wills2 said:
Agreed on the Russian connection, cutting off their supply of expensive cars was always going to lead to criminal gangs coming over to meet that demand, closer you are to the southern ports the better.
Why would they go after RHD cars though? You'd have thought continental LHD cars would be better suited and easier to transport without needing to cross the Channel.
They are probably stealing LHD ones as well. But a handful of Ferrari thefts in Europe don't make newspaper headlines here in the same way as a container full of local ones do. In any case, most of the parts will be the same, if breaking for parts is the goal.


FNG

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231 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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vaud said:
FNG said:
There's a remarkable number of RHD car parts available on eBay from Lithuania.

Of course, they might be mad for RHD motors over there.

Or perhaps that's where lots of prestige brand stolen cars end up, to sell back to us as parts.
I thought this had been discussed before and there was a feeling that they take wrecks from the UK in bulk and as they have a very low cost of labour they can still make the economics work?
On reflection I've been hasty in my assumption. I'm sure that's it, they all get sold into the many markets with huge demand for prestige RHD cars in mainland Europe...

So if someone got bent out of shape by any suggestion anyone in Lithuania could possibly break the law, then yeah absolutely no RHD cars stolen in the UK get stolen here, shipped there, taken apart and flogged back to us.

vaud

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162 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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FNG said:
On reflection I've been hasty in my assumption. I'm sure that's it, they all get sold into the many markets with huge demand for prestige RHD cars in mainland Europe...

So if someone got bent out of shape by any suggestion anyone in Lithuania could possibly break the law, then yeah absolutely no RHD cars stolen in the UK get stolen here, shipped there, taken apart and flogged back to us.
But you are also missing the point that just because a car is RHD, a very high % of the individual parts also apply to a LHD car so it is a big market?

NomduJour

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266 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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FNG

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Monday 9th October 2023
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vaud said:
FNG said:
On reflection I've been hasty in my assumption. I'm sure that's it, they all get sold into the many markets with huge demand for prestige RHD cars in mainland Europe...

So if someone got bent out of shape by any suggestion anyone in Lithuania could possibly break the law, then yeah absolutely no RHD cars stolen in the UK get stolen here, shipped there, taken apart and flogged back to us.
But you are also missing the point that just because a car is RHD, a very high % of the individual parts also apply to a LHD car so it is a big market?
Not missing anything, that much is obvious.

There remains the fact that there's precious little market in Europe for RHD cars, particularly stolen ones, therefore almost all cars stolen here are going to be stolen for spares not for resale complete.

And there will be a load of RHD specific parts, and I can't see those bits being thrown in the bin - rather they'll be flogged back to us as the major market for RHD bits.

NomduJour

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Plenty of demand for RHD stuff in Africa.