Home Sec Suella Braverman
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Peoples opinion on her?
Mine is simple, she is very right wing and very very very very dangerous!
Her 'Hurricane' of mass migration speech yesterday was Rivers of Blood 2.0.
As Home Sec she is being deliberately useless, refusing to do her job, building up the numbers people crossing the channel waiting to be processing in order create a huge back log on purpose just for political gain.
And continuing Patel's legacy of directly creating the channel crisis by closing all safe routes.
Mine is simple, she is very right wing and very very very very dangerous!
Her 'Hurricane' of mass migration speech yesterday was Rivers of Blood 2.0.
As Home Sec she is being deliberately useless, refusing to do her job, building up the numbers people crossing the channel waiting to be processing in order create a huge back log on purpose just for political gain.
And continuing Patel's legacy of directly creating the channel crisis by closing all safe routes.
Hurricane was the name of a civil rights song by Bob Dylan that championed the aniti racist cause and Sue Ellen has deftly woven that into her speach to show her true inclusive credentials - it's amazing how many have missed that subtle point.
As the daughter of immigrants herself Sue Ellen has demonstrated how the UK is an inclusive society where any race or creed can rise to the top and smash through the glass ceiling.
Sue is an example to us all and we should feel justly proud.
As the daughter of immigrants herself Sue Ellen has demonstrated how the UK is an inclusive society where any race or creed can rise to the top and smash through the glass ceiling.
Sue is an example to us all and we should feel justly proud.
Lotobear said:
Hurricane was the name of a civil rights song by Bob Dylan that championed the aniti racist cause and Sue Ellen has deftly woven that into her speach to show her true inclusive credentials - it's amazing how many have missed that subtle point.
As the daughter of immigrants herself Sue Ellen has demonstrated how the UK is an inclusive society where any race or creed can rise to the top and smash through the glass ceiling.
Sue is an example to us all and we should feel justly proud.
As the daughter of immigrants herself Sue Ellen has demonstrated how the UK is an inclusive society where any race or creed can rise to the top and smash through the glass ceiling.
Sue is an example to us all and we should feel justly proud.
The hurricane has already happened. There are millions of extra people here since brexit using the nice relaxed legal method. Everyones quiet as the white population are workshy and are being given an easy ride in the benefits system while it happens.
Suella knows this but just bangs on about illegal entry. None of the people coming here illegally are challenging anyone for a job,so it hardly matters compared to the legal entry 'hurricane'
Suella knows this but just bangs on about illegal entry. None of the people coming here illegally are challenging anyone for a job,so it hardly matters compared to the legal entry 'hurricane'
cirian75 said:
And continuing Patel's legacy of directly creating the channel crisis by closing all safe routes.
there are no safe routes, we are an island that's the point. The safe route is you arrive at a port of entry and claim asylum. You cant do that unless you are in the UK, we have a big sea round us.
no government tory or labour is going to allow people to claim asylum in France.
Its not right or left wing, its a sea.
z4RRSchris said:
there are no safe routes, we are an island that's the point.
The safe route is you arrive at a port of entry and claim asylum. You cant do that unless you are in the UK, we have a big sea round us.
Not strictly true as we offered a route for a set number of Syrians and many Ukrainians. Further back we did the same for Ugandan Asians. We also changed our policy in HK to allow hundreds of thousands more people to come here if they wish.The safe route is you arrive at a port of entry and claim asylum. You cant do that unless you are in the UK, we have a big sea round us.
So if there is a desire to offer refuge to genuine refugees then there may well be a route offered.
Shapps trying to claim Bravermans speech was not "Rivers of Blood" 2.0
When it's plain as the nose on his face it 100% was.
Tories jumped the shark yesterday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67003887
When it's plain as the nose on his face it 100% was.
Tories jumped the shark yesterday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67003887
JagLover said:
Not strictly true as we offered a route for a set number of Syrians and many Ukrainians. Further back we did the same for Ugandan Asians. We also changed our policy in HK to allow hundreds of thousands more people to come here if they wish.
So if there is a desire to offer refuge to genuine refugees then there may well be a route offered.
Yep, this is it. For areas we know there is conflict (and we may have been indirectly involved in) we should offer safe routes for them to get here. Ukrainians, Afghans, Syrians, and any other areas. This will allow us to take in our share of genuine refugees, and there wouldn't be a need for them to get on the boats and pay tens of thousands for the privilege.So if there is a desire to offer refuge to genuine refugees then there may well be a route offered.
I am not sure why Suella isn't talking about these safe routes?
LimaDelta said:
They do seem to be in full-noise election winning mode at the moment, don't they? Problem is, they can keep making these promises, but until they actually do something, I can't see it working. This time, more than ever, they need to put their (our) money where their mouths are.
Problem being though there's no money left - all spunked on the Covid projectbecause their pledge is to reduce immigration, appeal to the brexit side of the party and also the labour lot who don't want immigration.
there is no obligation to take our "fair share" - its government policy for the government of the day.
closed door, less people sponging, more services for you etc etc etc.
I doubt Kier will be talking about taking "our fair share" either, its a stupid political move.
there is no obligation to take our "fair share" - its government policy for the government of the day.
closed door, less people sponging, more services for you etc etc etc.
I doubt Kier will be talking about taking "our fair share" either, its a stupid political move.
.I don't particularly like the woman but if she is dangerous now, what is she if she ignores the problem and lets it carry on? What is the solution? We are wrapped in bureaucracy that prevents us simply removing people who shouldn't be here. We voted to leave an organisation that allowed us to send people back.
Tom8 said:
I don't particularly like the woman but if she is dangerous now, what is she if she ignores the problem and lets it carry on? What is the solution? We are wrapped in bureaucracy that prevents us simply removing people who shouldn't be here. We voted to leave an organisation that allowed us to send people back.
It depends on what you think the problem is. Braverman would have you believe that the people arriving are the problem.Many of the population don't believer her, me included. The actual problem is that once they're here, our processes for handling them are completely broken. If we put half the effort into processing arriving immigrants as we did into confining and demonising them, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
Tom8 said:
I don't particularly like the woman but if she is dangerous now, what is she if she ignores the problem and lets it carry on? What is the solution? We are wrapped in bureaucracy that prevents us simply removing people who shouldn't be here. We voted to leave an organisation that allowed us to send people back.
We voted to stop uncontrolled migration from Europe - which we have done. In 2016 I think it was 200k net migration, mainly from Europe. in 2022 it was 600k net migration, mostly from outside of Europe, with 8% of that being the illegal boat people.We got what we voted for didn't we?
deckster said:
Tom8 said:
I don't particularly like the woman but if she is dangerous now, what is she if she ignores the problem and lets it carry on? What is the solution? We are wrapped in bureaucracy that prevents us simply removing people who shouldn't be here. We voted to leave an organisation that allowed us to send people back.
It depends on what you think the problem is. Braverman would have you believe that the people arriving are the problem.Many of the population don't believer her, me included. The actual problem is that once they're here, our processes for handling them are completely broken. If we put half the effort into processing arriving immigrants as we did into confining and demonising them, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
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