Liverpool School Bus Crash

[Its Just Adz]

14 year old girl and the driver killed as bus overturns on motorway.
Awful accident.

https://news.sky.com/story/merseyside-girl-14-and-...

[AB]

Not Liverpool, happened just after my junction on the M53 this morning. The Wirral has been gridlocked all day.

Pupils from my old school. I understand the bus driver suffered a heart attack. So sad.

[Its Just Adz]

Sorry, I just call that area Liverpool.
I wondered how it had tipped over, heart attack would explain it. Horrible for all involved.

[Ian Geary]

Awful news.

Thankfully coach deaths are pretty rare in the UK, as most I think nowadays have seatbelts.

If speculating i would also think some sort of medical emergency by the driver.

[cossy400]

AB said:

Not Liverpool, happened just after my junction on the M53 this morning. The Wirral has been gridlocked all day.

Pupils from my old school. I understand the bus driver suffered a heart attack. So sad.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12576121/I-thought-going-die-Sobbing-schoolgirl-says-M53-school-bus-crash-scary-pulled-wreckage-girl-14-driver-killed-coach-collided-car-flipped-side.html


Saying there was collison with a car? #

[AB]

cossy400 said:

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Saying there was collison with a car?

Yes I believe so. Doesn't mean the driver being taken ill didn't cause it. But it's only what's doing the rounds locally, I can't vouch for that fact.

I do however have an eyewitness account from someone who was behind the coach at the time (there were other school buses in convoy) and the scene was carnage, one of the lads with life changing leg injuries. As a Dad, absolute worst nightmare, and I hate the way things blow up on social media - with parents seeing it on the likes of Facebook first, knowing their kids were on a bus at that location at that time.

[cossy400]

AB said:

cossy400 said:

ttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12576121/I-thought-going-die-Sobbing-schoolgirl-says-M53-school-bus-crash-scary-pulled-wreckage-girl-14-driver-killed-coach-collided-car-flipped-side.html
Saying there was collison with a car?

Yes I believe so. Doesn't mean the driver being taken ill didn't cause it. But it's only what's doing the rounds locally, I can't vouch for that fact.

I do however have an eyewitness account from someone who was behind the coach at the time (there were other school buses in convoy) and the scene was carnage, one of the lads with life changing leg injuries. As a Dad, absolute worst nightmare, and I hate the way things blow up on social media - with parents seeing it on the likes of Facebook first, knowing their kids were on a bus at that location at that time.

I was surprised it got announced so quick about who had
sadly lost there lives.

[AB]

Possibly due to the rumours that were flying around, they made a point of it many times to avoid speculation and social media.

[MBVitoria]

Awful news and I'm so sorry for those that have been affected, particularly the fatalities and the lad with life changing injuries. Must have been horrendous for the families too and I suspect the news must have broken extremely quickly for them.

If it's any consolation at least it sounds like a pure accident that no-one could have foreseen. I only hope that the PCV medical etc was properly done for the driver and if it was a heart attack, it's not a similar incident to that Glasgow one a few years back where the driver concealed some information.

I gave my kids a big hug this morning just after we heard the news. They were off school for a wedding today but they're off on a school trip next week on a coach and it does just stop you in your tracks and think "what if". Having said that, you can't keep them wrapped up forever.

[bitchstewie]

As utterly horrible as it is honestly I'm amazed that can happen to a bus on a live motorway and "only" two people die.

It's tragic but bloody hell it could have been a lot worse.

[Oliver Hardy]

BBC news yesterday said that there were reports that the bus collided with a car but said police have asked people not to speculate.

If it was due to a heart attack, why was the motorway in both directions closed for so long?

[ruggedscotty]

Oliver Hardy said:

BBC news yesterday said that there were reports that the bus collided with a car but said police have asked people not to speculate.

If it was due to a heart attack, why was the motorway in both directions closed for so long?

think the photos show the reason quite well.

[Gareth79]

His relatives have mentioned he "suffering medical issues at the wheel" in a gofundme for his funeral expenses (and those of his widow/children). I think it's very poor of them to state that at this early stage, especially in a request for donations. I assume it was based on offhand comments from police based on the circumstances.

[ruggedscotty]

Gareth79 said:

His relatives have mentioned he "suffering medical issues at the wheel" in a gofundme for his funeral expenses (and those of his widow/children). I think it's very poor of them to state that at this early stage, especially in a request for donations. I assume it was based on offhand comments from police based on the circumstances.

over 11k already

[AB]

The pictures released of him, he didn't look overly healthy for a 40 year old.

[poo at Paul's]

These kneejerk "gofundme" pages really are awful, hideous and crass, and yet entirely predictable in the "caring / sharing" (social media) society that we have bred.

[bitchstewie]

Not everyone has the funds to cover an unexpected funeral and to potentially cope with the only household income disappearing overnight.

Who knows they might even want a day or two off to grieve too.

The absolute state of you.

[andyeds1234]

bhstewie said:

Not everyone has the funds to cover an unexpected funeral and to potentially cope with the only household income disappearing overnight.

Who knows they might even want a day or two off to grieve too.

The absolute state of you.

Trying to raise money, within hours of such a tragedy, is a strange thing to do. It may be well meaning, but the timing is very hard to understand.

Whatever the reason for the accident, the family of the driver should understand that there are many many other lives impacted, and a go fund me page isn’t exactly a priority at this stage.

Edited by andyeds1234 on Monday 2nd October 13:04

[poo at Paul's]

bhstewie said:

Not everyone has the funds to cover an unexpected funeral and to potentially cope with the only household income disappearing overnight.

Who knows they might even want a day or two off to grieve too.

The absolute state of you.

Diddums.

As for the 2nd last sentence, that’s sort of the point. Setting up a gofundme straight away is massively crass. Give them some time to grieve, both families.
How’s it going to look to the girl’s family if it turns out the driver was at fault here.

As for state of me, I’d rather be in my state than the clear utopian, delusional fantasyland existence you operate in.

[pork911]

poo at Paul's said:

Diddums.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=2020324&mid=151905