Tax planning ahead of a Labour Government

Tax planning ahead of a Labour Government

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anonymous-user

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60 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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So a good chance of Labour or Lab/Lib government in next 12 months. Those with millions invested in the U.K. will be sitting down with their tax planners working out how best to shelter their money from Labour’s clutches and of course they pay the best in the country to find all the loopholes

As for the rest of the population will be interesting to keep track of ideas as we get nearer the election.

An example if you are an entrepreneur and nearing retirement will business asset disposal relief remain as generous.?

Use of trusts and inheritance tax planning need to be reviewed ?


Biker 1

7,857 posts

125 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Interesting one. If I was a non-dom I'd be worried - easy target & popular with Jo Public.
However, Starmer has said multiple times that we're paying the biggest tax burden in years. Maybe he'll actually reduce the burden for the less affluent & tax the rich more? I suppose it all rather depends on their definition of rich....

Wacky Racer

38,809 posts

253 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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I've voted tory every election since 1969.

Next time I'm going for Labour, they can't be any worse than this shower........can they?

I'm actually starting to like Angela Rayner.

RicksAlfas

13,564 posts

250 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Wacky Racer said:
Next time I'm going for Labour, they can't be any worse than this shower........can they?
That's the million dollar question!


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

60 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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I hear Gibraltar is lovely.

durbster

10,641 posts

228 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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In the news today:
The (Conservative) government is on course to oversee the biggest tax-raising Parliament since records began, according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies' analysis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66945729

But you're worried about imaginary Labour Government policies?

Louis Balfour

27,411 posts

228 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Whatever stripe the next government, I foresee a massive increase in fiddling the system and "aggressive avoidance".

It is already quite noticeable the number of small businesses demanding cash only. My son's barber was telling him last weekend "it's cash only, I don't want to pay the tax". So not even covert, then.

We as a business are scrutinising every minute area where we can claim something extra against tax, where once we "played a straight bat".

I think a similar attitude is set to pervade all strata of taxpayers.

We are, if I am right, at the tipping point between "doing the right thing" and "fk 'em".


andy43

10,227 posts

260 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Louis Balfour said:
Whatever stripe the next government, I foresee a massive increase in fiddling the system and "aggressive avoidance".

It is already quite noticeable the number of small businesses demanding cash only. My son's barber was telling him last weekend "it's cash only, I don't want to pay the tax". So not even covert, then.

We as a business are scrutinising every minute area where we can claim something extra against tax, where once we "played a straight bat".

I think a similar attitude is set to pervade all strata of taxpayers.

We are, if I am right, at the tipping point between "doing the right thing" and "fk 'em".
When corp tax goes from 19% to 25% ‘fk ‘em’ does seem to be the correct strategy.

Rufus Stone

7,654 posts

62 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Killboy said:
I hear Gibraltar is lovely.
I think Cranked is planning on moving there if Labour win.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

114 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Saw an article this morning that the average tax bill could go up by £3.5k by the next election. It doesn’t seem to be Labour we have to worry about.

ATG

21,173 posts

278 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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OP, I have some magic tax avoiding beans you might be interested in. Very reasonable price when you consider the savings they might yield.

tangerine_sedge

5,056 posts

224 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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durbster said:
In the news today:
The (Conservative) government is on course to oversee the biggest tax-raising Parliament since records began, according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies' analysis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66945729

But you're worried about imaginary Labour Government policies?
Expect the number of Labour 'disaster porn' stories to increase in the run up to the GE. Talking about imaginary Labour outcomes seems more palatable to some than talking about actual Tory disasterous outcomes.

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

42 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Wacky Racer said:
I've voted tory every election since 1969.

Next time I'm going for Labour, they can't be any worse than this shower........can they?

I'm actually starting to like Angela Rayner.
You wouldn’t consider trying a slightly different experiment?? I guess you remember what a labour administration looks like by now !!

Rufus Stone

7,654 posts

62 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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andy43 said:
When corp tax goes from 19% to 25% ‘fk ‘em’ does seem to be the correct strategy.
The last few years my CT bill has been £17,000 - £20,000. I project £0 for fye 2024. Definitely fk 'em.

tangerine_sedge

5,056 posts

224 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Ivan stewart said:
Wacky Racer said:
I've voted tory every election since 1969.

Next time I'm going for Labour, they can't be any worse than this shower........can they?

I'm actually starting to like Angela Rayner.
You wouldn’t consider trying a slightly different experiment?? I guess you remember what a labour administration looks like by now !!
Well it's clear what another Tory term would bring :

3 more changes of leader, increased taxes, unsettled markets, failing services, culture wars and the continued raping of the government coffers to make the richest in society even richer. Chin chin double gins all. Round!!

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

42 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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86 said:
So a good chance of Labour or Lab/Lib government in next 12 months. Those with millions invested in the U.K. will be sitting down with their tax planners working out how best to shelter their money from Labour’s clutches and of course they pay the best in the country to find all the loopholes

As for the rest of the population will be interesting to keep track of ideas as we get nearer the election.

An example if you are an entrepreneur and nearing retirement will business asset disposal relief remain as generous.?

Use of trusts and inheritance tax planning need to be reviewed ?
Thinking I’ll continue to make less effort and live simply
I doubt labour will be any worse at discouraging small businesses or enterprise ..

markymarkthree

2,498 posts

177 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Dusting off the "shoe boxes" as we speak. biggrin

chemistry

2,351 posts

115 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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I fail to understand why so many people believe that just because the Tories are awfully bad (they are) Labour will be better (they won’t).

Personally, if close to retirement and with kids I’d be looking to sell any business I had to get entrepreneur’s relief before that gets targeted (although the Tories have already slashed it) and setting up trusts for IHT purposes, before they get reduced/banned (which I suspect they will).


RSbandit

2,750 posts

138 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Would normally be a Tory voter but I’m completely fed up with them tbh …at same time I could never vote labour as they are fully onboard with all the net zero and identity politics rubbish and then the plan to add vat to private school fees on top. Yeah the Tories jacking up the corp tax to 25% wtf but labour will probably hit higher PAYE earners as that plays well for them. Some creative tax planning solutions required over next 5-10 yrs .