Essex battery warehouse goes up

[Hammersia]

Next door to where I live, not had much coverage but according to my firefighter pal the whole building - which has only been there a few months - will be coming down.

NOT known that lithium batteries were the cause but blimey the consequences looks a biggie. I do wonder how "battery warehouse" type companies get insurance at a sensible cost.

"Essex Fire and Rescue were called at 01:15 BST to the site at Turing Court, Great Notley.

They found the large warehouse smoke logged and 40 to 50 firefighters were on site overnight.

The presence of lithium batteries made conditions "challenging" and the fire service expects to be on site "for some time", it said."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-668383...

[Terminator X]

TX.

[Acorn1]

Nasty.

Almost impossible to extinguish a battery fire isn't it?

[sjg]

https://www.careco.co.uk/braintree-showroom

They sell mobility scooters.

[TheDeuce]

I wonder if li-ion fires are more commonplace than insurance fraud fires?

[Hammersia]

sjg said:

https://www.careco.co.uk/braintree-showroom

They sell mobility scooters.

Yes, I didn't say otherwise.

[TheDeuce]

Hammersia said:

sjg said:

https://www.careco.co.uk/braintree-showroom

They sell mobility scooters.

Yes, I didn't say otherwise.

Electric scooters and similar reside in homes and tower blocks all over the world. What's the big deal that makes this story worth posting about on a car forum?

Why is every fire that 'may' include a lithium battery posted about on here? There must be a fans of fire fighting forum somewhere..

[Hammersia]

TheDeuce said:

Hammersia said:

sjg said:

https://www.careco.co.uk/braintree-showroom

They sell mobility scooters.

Yes, I didn't say otherwise.

Electric scooters and similar reside in homes and tower blocks all over the world. What's the big deal that makes this story worth posting about on a car forum?

Why is every fire that 'may' include a lithium battery posted about on here? There must be a fans of fire fighting forum somewhere..

Lithium is fairly central to the current EV world as far as I know.

And the insurance premiums for lithium and/or EV related incidents e.g. car accidents, car park collapses (New York), car park fires (Liverpool), etc. etc. is an interesting point I raised in the OP.

And I live right next door so yes it's interesting.

Edited by Hammersia on Monday 18th September 12:46

[juice]

sjg said:

https://www.careco.co.uk/braintree-showroom

They sell mobility scooters.

My Mate works there, he's currently WFH and unsure whether he'll have a job going forward.

[sparkymark75]

Imagine if everyone posted every time an ICE vehicle caught fire?!

[Hammersia]

sparkymark75 said:

Imagine if everyone posted every time an ICE vehicle caught fire?!

If it destroyed an £18million quid building in the process it would be worth a thread, yes.

[TheDeuce]

Hammersia said:

TheDeuce said:

Hammersia said:

sjg said:

https://www.careco.co.uk/braintree-showroom

They sell mobility scooters.

Yes, I didn't say otherwise.

Electric scooters and similar reside in homes and tower blocks all over the world. What's the big deal that makes this story worth posting about on a car forum?

Why is every fire that 'may' include a lithium battery posted about on here? There must be a fans of fire fighting forum somewhere..

Lithium is fairly central to the current EV world as far as I know.

And the insurance premiums for lithium and/or EV related incidents e.g. car accidents, car park collapses (New York), car park fires (Liverpool), etc. etc. is an interesting point I raised in the OP.

And I live right next door so yes it's interesting.

Edited by Hammersia on Monday 18th September 12:46

It's interesting for you. But it's got nothing to do with EV's or cars.

Lithium is central to lots of things we use everyday and store in places that would be bad places for a fire to break out.

[J4CKO]

Wasnt this a storyline in "Benidorm" ?

[Hammersia]

TheDeuce said:

Hammersia said:

TheDeuce said:

Hammersia said:

sjg said:

https://www.careco.co.uk/braintree-showroom

They sell mobility scooters.

Yes, I didn't say otherwise.

Electric scooters and similar reside in homes and tower blocks all over the world. What's the big deal that makes this story worth posting about on a car forum?

Why is every fire that 'may' include a lithium battery posted about on here? There must be a fans of fire fighting forum somewhere..

Lithium is fairly central to the current EV world as far as I know.

And the insurance premiums for lithium and/or EV related incidents e.g. car accidents, car park collapses (New York), car park fires (Liverpool), etc. etc. is an interesting point I raised in the OP.

And I live right next door so yes it's interesting.

Edited by Hammersia on Monday 18th September 12:46

It's interesting for you. But it's got nothing to do with EV's or cars.

Lithium is central to lots of things we use everyday and store in places that would be bad places for a fire to break out.

Not sure why you're querying the relevance to EVs. But seeing as you have, I didn't have to search too hard to find two big lithium warehouse fire this year:

"A large fire and explosion has occurred on Monday at a warehouse containing thousands of lithium battery packs in the city of Rouen, France. At least 100 firefighters and 60 fire engines are reported to have been fighting the fire."

https://ctif.org/news/large-explosion-and-fire-fre...

"The State Fire Marshal’s office has been notified of a fire in Stephens County over the weekend at a warehouse containing hundreds of thousands of pounds of lithium batteries.

It happened Saturday afternoon at about 1:50p at American Ecycle on Turner Road in Eastanollee.

American Ecycle is a recycling company that deals in electric vehicle lithium batteries, old computer equipment and other electric e-waste.

There were over 500,000 pounds of lithium batteries alone inside the 25,000 square foot building, according to Eastanollee Fire Chief Jamey Gettys.

He said they had multiple explosions and heavy smoke and fire conditions.

Gettys said burning lithium batteries are almost impossible to extinguish."

https://921wlhr.com/warehouse-containing-thousands...

And turns out that the insurance experts agree with my main point in the OP:

Allianz Global Corporate & Specialty report warns that rising EV adoption means li-ion battery fires are a growing threat to warehousing and sea shipping

https://supplychaindigital.com/supply-chain-risk-m...

[55palfers]

TheDeuce said:

Hammersia said:

sjg said:

https://www.careco.co.uk/braintree-showroom

They sell mobility scooters.

Yes, I didn't say otherwise.

Electric scooters and similar reside in homes and tower blocks all over the world. What's the big deal that makes this story worth posting about on a car forum?

Why is every fire that 'may' include a lithium battery posted about on here? There must be a fans of fire fighting forum somewhere..

Recycling plant fires have their own PH thread, so why not.

[TheDeuce]

Hammersia said:

TheDeuce said:

Hammersia said:

TheDeuce said:

Hammersia said:

sjg said:

https://www.careco.co.uk/braintree-showroom

They sell mobility scooters.

Yes, I didn't say otherwise.

Electric scooters and similar reside in homes and tower blocks all over the world. What's the big deal that makes this story worth posting about on a car forum?

Why is every fire that 'may' include a lithium battery posted about on here? There must be a fans of fire fighting forum somewhere..

Lithium is fairly central to the current EV world as far as I know.

And the insurance premiums for lithium and/or EV related incidents e.g. car accidents, car park collapses (New York), car park fires (Liverpool), etc. etc. is an interesting point I raised in the OP.

And I live right next door so yes it's interesting.

Edited by Hammersia on Monday 18th September 12:46

It's interesting for you. But it's got nothing to do with EV's or cars.

Lithium is central to lots of things we use everyday and store in places that would be bad places for a fire to break out.

Not sure why you're querying the relevance to EVs. But seeing as you have, I didn't have to search too hard to find two big lithium warehouse fire this year:

"A large fire and explosion has occurred on Monday at a warehouse containing thousands of lithium battery packs in the city of Rouen, France. At least 100 firefighters and 60 fire engines are reported to have been fighting the fire."

https://ctif.org/news/large-explosion-and-fire-fre...

"The State Fire Marshal’s office has been notified of a fire in Stephens County over the weekend at a warehouse containing hundreds of thousands of pounds of lithium batteries.

It happened Saturday afternoon at about 1:50p at American Ecycle on Turner Road in Eastanollee.

American Ecycle is a recycling company that deals in electric vehicle lithium batteries, old computer equipment and other electric e-waste.

There were over 500,000 pounds of lithium batteries alone inside the 25,000 square foot building, according to Eastanollee Fire Chief Jamey Gettys.

He said they had multiple explosions and heavy smoke and fire conditions.

Gettys said burning lithium batteries are almost impossible to extinguish."

https://921wlhr.com/warehouse-containing-thousands...

And turns out that the insurance experts agree with my main point in the OP:

Allianz Global Corporate & Specialty report warns that rising EV adoption means li-ion battery fires are a growing threat to warehousing and sea shipping

https://supplychaindigital.com/supply-chain-risk-m...

It's got nothing at all to do with EV's, there wasn't even an EV present.

Hence, mods have moved this thread

[GT9]

TheDeuce said:

It's got nothing at all to do with EV's, there wasn't even an EV present.

Hence, mods have moved this thread

OP is now blocked from his own thread for 4 months, oh dear....

[TheDeuce]

GT9 said:

TheDeuce said:

It's got nothing at all to do with EV's, there wasn't even an EV present.

Hence, mods have moved this thread

OP is now blocked from his own thread for 4 months, oh dear....

Ah well..

[Diderot]

Why is that Americans never seem to use the preposition ’on’ for days of the week?

[GT9]

Diderot said:

Why is that Americans never seem to use the preposition ’on’ for days of the week?

Yeah, that, and the use of 'motor' to describe an engine and 'electric engine' to describe a motor...