Planet becoming less suitable for humans

[Skeptisk]

For some decades scientists have been tracking human induced changes to the planet and the impact of those changes on the ability of the planet to sustain humans.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/1...

It seems like for most of the key areas humans are putting the planet under stress.

I think that humans haven’t evolved to deal easily with global problems or problems that span decades or centuries, which require immediate action. We are too focused on our everyday life and immediate issues for our family and friends. Generally we only act well when faced by an urgent problem eg war or natural disaster.

[KAgantua]

Bs

[Getragdogleg]

Skeptisk said:

I think that humans haven’t evolved to deal easily with global problems or problems that span decades or centuries,

What ?

Id say we are highly adaptable to the point that we have overpopulated because we can figure out ways to delay nature and think our way out of trouble.

At one point the population of humans on this planet supposedly fell to less than 1500 individuals.

[vetrof]

The planet became unsuitable for 99% of all species that ever lived. We are not special, evolution will take care of things.

[anonymous-user]

Jump on a rocket with Elon and move to Mars.

[BoRED S2upid]

Absolute nonsense. Search Neom to see how humans can (if they can finish it) adapt to live anywhere on earth. All you need is a water source (sea) and power (solar) and we can live anywhere. Oh and billions of dollar bucks of course.

[Ivan stewart]

Time this was properly described,
It’s a faux religious belief ..

[KAgantua]

Be interesting to see qualifying data around this.

Life expectancy globally is decrea-

Oh wait....

[Welcome.]

Jesus Christ all the wibblists are in today!

[Getragdogleg]

Welcome. said:

Jesus Christ all the wibblists are in today!

[bloomen]

I have it on good authority that trans woke leftists gained control of our biome in the late 80s and have been putting their plan into action ever since.

Someone needs to stop them.

[Skeptisk]

KAgantua said:

Be interesting to see qualifying data around this.

Life expectancy globally is decrea-

Oh wait....

Does the report suggest that the issues with the biosphere has already led to a decrease in life expectancy? If not what relevance does your comment have? I suppose that is the level of argument on NP&E.

People have written BS about the report but there seems to be a lot more BS in the comments on here!

[DeejRC]

Skeptisk said:

KAgantua said:

Be interesting to see qualifying data around this.

Life expectancy globally is decrea-

Oh wait....

Does the report suggest that the issues with the biosphere has already led to a decrease in life expectancy? If not what relevance does your comment have? I suppose that is the level of argument on NP&E.

People have written BS about the report but there seems to be a lot more BS in the comments on here!

What is your actual point?

[DaveTheRave87]

Planet spent a long time warm and humid enough for 20ft reptiles.

Planet got hit by big thing from space, causing ice age.

Planet goes through gradual warming process on its way back to being suitable for 20ft lizards.

Planet is currently at stage best suited for 5-6ft mammals.

[Getragdogleg]

DaveTheRave87 said:

Planet spent a long time warm and humid enough for 20ft reptiles.

Planet got hit by big thing from space, causing ice age.

Planet goes through gradual warming process on its way back to being suitable for 20ft lizards.

Planet is currently at stage best suited for 5-6ft mammals.

Planet does not care nor notice any of this and will exist long after anything that has ever lived is so long gone there is zero trace at all.

[Skeptisk]

DeejRC said:

Skeptisk said:

KAgantua said:

Be interesting to see qualifying data around this.

Life expectancy globally is decrea-

Oh wait....

Does the report suggest that the issues with the biosphere has already led to a decrease in life expectancy? If not what relevance does your comment have? I suppose that is the level of argument on NP&E.

People have written BS about the report but there seems to be a lot more BS in the comments on here!

What is your actual point?

I assume you are referring to my reply to KAgantua. That his comment was irrelevant as the increase is life expectancy does not prove that there hasn’t been environmental degradation and isn’t a prediction of the hypothesis that human actions are eroding the ability of the earth to support humans.

[poo at Paul's]

I'm willing to take my chances, and reckon humankind will somehow cope.
May need a couple more ice cubes in my weak lemon squash a couple of summer days per year, but it's definitely doable.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

Let me guess. The only way to save us from this fate is to give up stuff and pay more money to governments and billionaires?

[rohrl]

DaveTheRave87 said:

Planet spent a long time warm and humid enough for 20ft reptiles.

Planet got hit by big thing from space, causing ice age.

Planet goes through gradual warming process on its way back to being suitable for 20ft lizards.

Planet is currently at stage best suited for 5-6ft mammals.

Your time periods are way out. The Yucutan impact was 65M years ago, the last ice age ended 11,700 years ago. There have been many fluctuations in temperature since 65M years ago, it hasn’t just been getting warmer ever since.

[glazbagun]

Skeptisk said:

For some decades scientists have been tracking human induced changes to the planet and the impact of those changes on the ability of the planet to sustain humans.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/1...

It seems like for most of the key areas humans are putting the planet under stress.

I think that humans haven’t evolved to deal easily with global problems or problems that span decades or centuries, which require immediate action. We are too focused on our everyday life and immediate issues for our family and friends. Generally we only act well when faced by an urgent problem eg war or natural disaster.

I'd want to read the paper as the Guardian article seemed a bit light, but generally I would agree that in changing anything can have unintended consequences and that humans generally act in their short term interests. If we didn't we likely wouldn't have lasted like we have, but we still have more ability to delay gratification than other animals, so I wouldn't write us off yet.

The environment has often been treated like an infinite resource and our consumption is reaching economies of scale that's becoming difficult to sustain in some areas.

We're used to wars over land resources, perhaps in 50 years environmental damage will be similarly important to a strong enough nation that it jumps up in priority.