Braverman orders review into police impartiatiality

Braverman orders review into police impartiatiality

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bitchstewie

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55,220 posts

217 months

gt_12345

1,873 posts

42 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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bhstewie said:
Yes, how dare the police be impartial.

nordboy

1,959 posts

57 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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bhstewie said:
It appears she's just the latest Tory HS to get a hard on for the police, after her statement about all thefts, new powers to sack officer etc, she's on a roll.

She needs to tell her boss though, as he's just had a reception at Downing St with ALL the uk CC's who had to take a new officer who has joined since 2019. They were doing a photo shoot and reception celebrating the 20000 new police officers they've recruited. Even though there is no 20k new officers, they've just managed to replace the ones who've left.

So effectively the Tory's are using the CC's to promote their political agendas? So who is bringing who into the political arena?? Can't have it both ways?



Electro1980

8,520 posts

146 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Is she doing something about PSNI found to have made disciplinary decisions based on political interference?

Nope, she’s moaning about officers dancing at a pride event, and calling pride politically contentious. Demanding police don’t investigate accusations of crimes that are reported because they are things that her supporters don’t like.

FFS, she is an idiot, and a nasty one to boot.

nordboy

1,959 posts

57 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Electro1980 said:
Is she doing something about PSNI found to have made disciplinary decisions based on political interference?

Nope, she’s moaning about officers dancing at a pride event, and calling pride politically contentious. Demanding police don’t investigate accusations of crimes that are reported because they are things that her supporters don’t like.

FFS, she is an idiot, and a nasty one to boot.
She's just trying to impress the PM, maybe she's a bit nervous after the latest mini shuffle. Shows that trying to impress their peers is obviously more important MP's to than actually doing a reasonable job?

KAgantua

4,257 posts

138 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Good for her.

I really like her

XCP

17,181 posts

235 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Electro1980 said:
Is she doing something about PSNI found to have made disciplinary decisions based on political interference?

Nope, she’s moaning about officers dancing at a pride event, and calling pride politically contentious. Demanding police don’t investigate accusations of crimes that are reported because they are things that her supporters don’t like.

FFS, she is an idiot, and a nasty one to boot.
I don't think Northern Ireland is part of her brief to be fair.

bloomen

7,463 posts

166 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Cannae believe this nincompoop scum walked straight back into the job.

Surely they can pull some passing tourist off the street and give them the job.

Super Sonic

7,367 posts

61 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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XCP said:
I don't think Northern Ireland is part of her brief to be fair.
How about Police Service Northern Ireland?

XCP

17,181 posts

235 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Super Sonic said:
XCP said:
I don't think Northern Ireland is part of her brief to be fair.
How about Police Service Northern Ireland?
Devolved, as far as I know. So the NI office are in charge. Home Sec only in charge of policing England and Wales I believe.

P. ONeill

1,455 posts

59 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Electro1980 said:
Is she doing something about PSNI found to have made disciplinary decisions based on political interference? .
The unionist meltdown on policing is all about Sinn Féin having an input or say in the governance of the North. Times have changed, unionists haven’t.

Electro1980

8,520 posts

146 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Take your sectarian counter factual stuff to a thread about that case or Northern Ireland. This is about the Home Secretary and the supposed political actions of the police. Derailing it with some biased nonsense that flies in the face of the courts judgement is not needed here.

Dingu

4,373 posts

37 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Can we have a review into ministerial competence while she is at it?

bitchstewie

Original Poster:

55,220 posts

217 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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There is no competence she's a joke.

The Police police by consent and that means building relationships with the communities they're supposed to Police.

Braverman seems to think if they attend events she disagrees with they're being political but presumably if they attend the village fete that's fine.

It seems she's the one who isn't being impartial about the role of the Police and is politicising it.

chemistry

2,459 posts

116 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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bhstewie said:
The Police police by consent and that means building relationships with the communities they're supposed to Police.
Yes, but they should also remain professional and impartial.

The Police should not display the flags/insignia of any particular cause, take the knee or otherwise adopt the symbols/gestures of any particular political group, etc.

The Police can build relationships with the communities they are supposed to police without becoming entirely integrated into them.

abzmike

9,302 posts

113 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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This is nothing to do with policing and everything to do with getting a helpful headline in the Daily Mail.

Electro1980

8,520 posts

146 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Dingu said:
Can we have a review into ministerial competence while she is at it?
Easy:

A systematic review of ministerial competence across all government departments produced no evidence at a 4 sigma level of accuracy.

Dog Star

16,492 posts

175 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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chemistry said:
Yes, but they should also remain professional and impartial.

The Police should not display the flags/insignia of any particular cause, take the knee or otherwise adopt the symbols/gestures of any particular political group, etc.

The Police can build relationships with the communities they are supposed to police without becoming entirely integrated into them.
This. Braverman is an idiot, and a nasty one too.

However when it comes to nonsense like taking the knee and doing silly dances at festivals etc - I’m absolutely dead against this. By all means develop a relationship in the community but they’re police, not your friends. They should be respected. Such activities don’t earn my respect - and I seriously doubt that they earn the respect of scallies and scrotes either.

P. ONeill

1,455 posts

59 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Electro1980 said:
Take your sectarian counter factual stuff to a thread about that case or Northern Ireland. This is about the Home Secretary and the supposed political actions of the police. Derailing it with some biased nonsense that flies in the face of the courts judgement is not needed here.
The posts directly above mine mentioned the discredited RUC/PSNI, odd that you didn’t quote them. There is nothing sectarian in my post.

Electro1980

8,520 posts

146 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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“scallies and scrotes”? Is that how you see LGBTQ and ethnic minority communities?

I’m wilfully misinterpreting what you are saying, because I don’t think that is what you are saying, but you also seem to have misunderstood who they are engaging with and why. The dancing and involvement in events is about involvement in communities that have historic reasons to distrust the police, and being involved and seen as human.

It’s not about criminals, it’s about communities wanting to engage with the police. A long time ago the police worked out that standing silently looking intimidating when it’s not needed at events gains nothing and can lose lots.