Trans woman sets new Canadian power lifting record

[Rufus Stone]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12412835/...

Lifted 50% more than the second placed female.

Think about that.

[ikarl]

I want to comment on this, because I disagree with born-males competing against cis women, but nothing I write is right and I just sound like I'm massively anti-trans... which I'm not.

I want to be as inclusive as possible, but struggle to give my head a wobble and accept this as 'ok'

[ChocolateFrog]

Shrug.

Women's issues. Why didn't the actual women say or do something at the time. I doubt they'd run the competition if it was just one trans woman competing.

Can't just moan about it after the fact when you've lost.

My sympathy for this lunacy is waning.

[JagLover]

South Park has the footage

[Sheets Tabuer]

Well done her, looks like all that training paid off.

[Randy Winkman]

ChocolateFrog said:

Shrug.

Women's issues. Why didn't the actual women say or do something at the time. I doubt they'd run the competition if it was just one trans woman competing.

Can't just moan about it after the fact when you've lost.

My sympathy for this lunacy is waning.

The article says that some women quit the competition because they knew the eventual winner would be competing. What is "this lunacy" that you are losing sympathy for?

[Murph7355]

JagLover said:

South Park has the footage

The word dingleberry is not used enough.

[grumbledoak]

ChocolateFrog said:

Shrug.

Women's issues. Why didn't the actual women say or do something at the time. I doubt they'd run the competition if it was just one trans woman competing.

Can't just moan about it after the fact when you've lost.

My sympathy for this lunacy is waning.

^ that. The women can end this quickly enough by refusing to compete with biological men.

[Rufus Stone]

grumbledoak said:

^ that. The women can end this quickly enough by refusing to compete with biological men.

But they will then be accused of being transphobic.

[Murph7355]

Rufus Stone said:

grumbledoak said:

^ that. The women can end this quickly enough by refusing to compete with biological men.

But they will then be accused of being transphobic.

And be forced not to compete or set up something new again... Victim blaming something something something.

Rights Top Trumps is with us for the long haul

[Newc]

grumbledoak said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Shrug.

Women's issues. Why didn't the actual women say or do something at the time. I doubt they'd run the competition if it was just one trans woman competing.

Can't just moan about it after the fact when you've lost.

My sympathy for this lunacy is waning.

^ that. The women can end this quickly enough by refusing to compete with biological men.

And then in many cases lose appearance fees, sponsor fees, ranking points, and other elements of their income.

The way to stop cheating men entering women's competitions and cheating is to say that men are not allowed to enter women's competitions. Or, as it used to be known, applying common sense.

[Biggy Stardust]

Rufus Stone said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12412835/...

Lifted 50% more than the second placed female.

Lifted 50% more than the first placed actual female.

[remedy]

Rufus Stone said:

grumbledoak said:

^ that. The women can end this quickly enough by refusing to compete with biological men.

But they will then be accused of being transphobic.

Yep, then they are vilified as TERFs.

Only one side wins...

[gotoPzero]

[Silvanus]

ikarl said:

I want to comment on this, because I disagree with born-males competing against cis women, but nothing I write is right and I just sound like I'm massively anti-trans... which I'm not.

I want to be as inclusive as possible, but struggle to give my head a wobble and accept this as 'ok'

I think you are in the majority. There are plenty of sporting bodies now preventing post pubescent trans women competing in top level womens sports. Once a male goes through purity they have musculoskeletal advantages in many sports, even if male hormones are in check. A trans women is likely to have a huge advantage in powerlifting over a female.

People are so scared these days to say anything, even if its common sense and supported by the majority. God forbid someone might get offended, even if everyone thinks it's madness.

Should get my OH to post as she's involved in high level sport, but she thinks PH is just as bad as Mumsnet

[rohrl]

ChocolateFrog said:

Shrug.

Women's issues. Why didn't the actual women say or do something at the time. I doubt they'd run the competition if it was just one trans woman competing.

Can't just moan about it after the fact when you've lost.

My sympathy for this lunacy is waning.

Many women say something but they’re then labelled as bigots and TERFs and transphobic.

[Beati Dogu]

rohrl said:

Many women say something but they’re then labelled as bigots and TERFs and transphobic.

They need to man up.

[grumbledoak]

Beati Dogu said:

rohrl said:

Many women say something but they’re then labelled as bigots and TERFs and transphobic.

They need to man up.

To grow a pair.

[Jasey_]

grumbledoak said:

Beati Dogu said:

rohrl said:

Many women say something but they’re then labelled as bigots and TERFs and transphobic.

They need to man up.

To grow a pair.

[Randy Winkman]

Murph7355 said:

Rufus Stone said:

grumbledoak said:

^ that. The women can end this quickly enough by refusing to compete with biological men.

But they will then be accused of being transphobic.

And be forced not to compete or set up something new again... Victim blaming something something something.

Rights Top Trumps is with us for the long haul

Some women did refuse to compete. It says so in the article linked to in the opening post. I've pointed to it once.