Time to ban gambling adverts again?

Time to ban gambling adverts again?

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Grumps.

Original Poster:

8,983 posts

42 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Since the lifting of restrictions in relation to advertising gambling on the TV and every flat surface, it seems to me that it has become a bigger problem with society.

The constant barrage of TV adverts is tiresome!

The other problem is, it generates around £14bn of profit, which is a healthy tax take for HMRC.

According to this recent review, it is becoming a bigger problem.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/gamblin...


bitchstewie

54,519 posts

216 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Government Website said:
This review has estimated that 0.5% of the adult population has a problem with gambling, 3.8% are gambling at at-risk levels, and 7% are affected negatively by an others people’s gambling.
Those last two numbers are pretty shocking.

Panamax

4,812 posts

40 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Presumably if basic arithmetic and the oddities of human behaviour were taught at school people might have more sense.

The more I learnt about gambling the less likely I was to participate. I'd estimate my total lifetime spend on gambling at something around £100, which includes various horse race meetings and visits to casinos.

glazbagun

14,430 posts

203 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Tax take must be inconsequential compared to the negative effects on individuals and families. I would happily outlaw profit from recreational gambling. The more I learn about addiction, the more intolerant I am of a lot of this stuff. The industries know what they're doing.

g3org3y

20,918 posts

197 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Worth a listen:


Panamax

4,812 posts

40 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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glazbagun said:
The industries know what they're doing.
I used to be involved in the industry. You are absolutely correct. Addicts generate a huge proportion of the profits.

What I particularly despise are the adverts that go on about "setting yourself a safe limit" or "if you get into financial difficulties call and have a chat with our friendly team".

grumbledoak

31,763 posts

239 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Yay. Another call to ban something to make us "safe". rolleyes

No.

gazza285

10,101 posts

214 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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An entire industry designed to remove money from the stupid and gullible.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

73 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Panamax said:
glazbagun said:
The industries know what they're doing.
I used to be involved in the industry. You are absolutely correct. Addicts generate a huge proportion of the profits.

What I particularly despise are the adverts that go on about "setting yourself a safe limit" or "if you get into financial difficulties call and have a chat with our friendly team".
That last bit does actually want to make me projectile vomit. Kind of like the wolf offering mortgage advice to the piggies isn't it.

Grumps.

Original Poster:

8,983 posts

42 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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grumbledoak said:
Yay. Another call to ban something to make us "safe". rolleyes

No.
Where does anything state this would make us "safe"?

Maybe try reading and understanding the review first.

This topic is about the advertising of it.


Yes, as pointed out, it is those around them that can equally suffer the fallout.


Edited by Grumps. on Saturday 12th August 10:52

Wills2

23,963 posts

181 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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grumbledoak said:
Yay. Another call to ban something to make us "safe". rolleyes

No.
It shouldn't be banned as an activity but the advertising should be restricted, they are parasites that create nothing of value they just prey on people, so it should be something you have to search out rather than having it rammed down your throat.



Previous

1,492 posts

160 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Yes.

I get that adults should make their own choices, and they still will be able to if gambling ads are taken down.

However, the ads are everywhere, and despite not being aimed at kids, they do normalise gambling for younger generations who are inevitably exposed to them.

I've already had my 8 year old son pointing out to me that I could have some "free bets" if I signed up to one of the various sites being advertised, which drove the need to explain how gambling works (and why its not really a good idea).

In his case luckily he lost a few pounds trying to win a soft toy on a claw machine on paignton pier. He's linked that to a bad experience of
'gambling' and I hope that experience will stay with him more than any talk or advice I can give.






mickk

29,341 posts

248 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Why do they need to advertise, every adult knows how to put a bet on.

Puzzles

2,277 posts

117 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Having seen them ruin so many lives I think it should be treated like cigarette advertising.

bitchstewie

54,519 posts

216 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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mickk said:
Why do they need to advertise, every adult knows how to put a bet on.
To persuade them to put it on with them.

Gweeds

7,954 posts

58 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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“When the fun stops, stop”

Oh fk off you venal bds.

grumbledoak

31,763 posts

239 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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Almost all advertising is to create demand. Almost all of it for things we do not need, and often cannot afford.

There is no shortage of targets of addiction.

Picking on one thing you don’t approve of and campaigning to ban it is misguided at best, and more often just pathetic campaign of the week crap for the hand wringers.

Put all your hobbies first on the ban list and see if you still support banning everything.

TwigtheWonderkid

44,423 posts

156 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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grumbledoak said:
Almost all advertising is to create demand. Almost all of it for things we do not need, and often cannot afford.
That's not true. Look at most tv ads, and you'll see they are for stuff with relatively fixed demand, be it washing up liquid or holidays. The idea of the ad is to capture a bigger market share of that demand. To get people to buy your brand of washing up liquid, not to get people to buy more washing up liquid.

Gambling ads aren't meant to get people to think "ooo, I've never gambled before, I think I'll start". They are designed to get you to stop gambling with your usual firm and swich your gambling to the firm making the ad.

Dingu

4,209 posts

36 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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The industry is toxic top to bottom. Need a damn good shake up with meaningful regulation. And yes, advertising should just be banned. There is no need for it.


ETA: it would already be banned if there weren’t such a high number of morally bankrupt MPs willing to take a day out to lobby.

Edited by Dingu on Saturday 12th August 11:53

mickk

29,341 posts

248 months

Saturday 12th August 2023
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bhstewie said:
mickk said:
Why do they need to advertise, every adult knows how to put a bet on.
To persuade them to put it on with them.
Well yes. but if advertising were banned tomorrow it wouldn't stop people gambling, people know how. I already have a SkyBet account I don't care about their over the top advertising.