12 year old killed on M62

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BrettMRC

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4,486 posts

167 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-664218...

Late at night, hit by a car whilst trying to cross the motorway - car didn't stop... and the adult with him now arrested for allowing him to come to harm.

I simply cannot fathom the thought processes, nor why the driver hasn't come forward yet - as I'm guessing there isn't much you can do as a driver in this situation if a kid appears out of the darkness while you're travelling at 70.



(edited for spelling)

Edited by BrettMRC on Monday 7th August 08:54

Nemophilist

3,085 posts

188 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Is it possible the driver didn’t know he’d hit a human?

Absolutely tragic for the child

Edited by Nemophilist on Monday 7th August 08:19

gotoPzero

18,192 posts

196 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Pretty much nil chance of the driver getting off the motorway without being caught by cctv.

Red9zero

7,932 posts

64 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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I assumed stolen car, or no licence / tax / insurance.

heisthegaffer

3,652 posts

205 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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I don't know the area but we're there no bridges nearby to walk across?

I wouldn't fancy my chances of crossing a motorway.

Poor kid.

valiant

11,368 posts

167 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Nemophilist said:
Is it possible the driver didn’t know he’d hit a human?

Absolutely tragic for the child

Edited by Nemophilist on Monday 7th August 08:19
There’s little chance of hitting anything at that speed and not feeling it or not coming away with some sort of damage.

May have thought it was an animal or something depending on visibility and alertness but he’d have known he’d hit something and definitely would see it once he’s out of the car.

Tango13

8,934 posts

183 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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valiant said:
There’s little chance of hitting anything at that speed and not feeling it or not coming away with some sort of damage.

May have thought it was an animal or something depending on visibility and alertness but he’d have known he’d hit something and definitely would see it once he’s out of the car.
yes

I had a pigeon hit the windscreen on my car, it didn't do any damage but even though I knew it was going to happen a second before impact the thud still made me jump.

Even hitting a hare with a glancing blow was enough to wreck the bumper and fog light, if I'd hit it square on it would've taken out the bumper, oil cooler, radiator and the fan, probably enough to write the car off.

I'm sure the truth will out in time, hope the childs parents and family are getting the support they need

myvision

1,989 posts

143 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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valiant said:
There’s little chance of hitting anything at that speed and not feeling it or not coming away with some sort of damage.

May have thought it was an animal or something depending on visibility and alertness but he’d have known he’d hit something and definitely would see it once he’s out of the car.
Exactly I hit a large fox and it demolished the front of my car a 12 year old kid will do a lot of damage.

BrettMRC

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167 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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I wondered if it might have been an HGV?

12TS

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217 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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I drove through there an hour or so before and the weather was awful, visibility was very low.

Scrump

22,944 posts

165 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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I hit a teenager whilst driving at low city speeds. I still managed to smash the windscreen, dent a panel and knock off a door mirror.

Southerner

1,756 posts

59 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Seems a slightly confused chain of events, from the BBC articles:

“Just after 21:30 police received reports of a single-vehicle crash on the slip road to Hartshead Moor Services.
Officers then received further reports of two people walking along the motorway, shortly before the subsequent crash in which the boy died.”

I guess it’s probably not at all unusual for incoming calls to get jumbled amongst the chaos of an ongoing incident.

chrispmartha

16,844 posts

136 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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heisthegaffer said:
I don't know the area but we're there no bridges nearby to walk across?

I wouldn't fancy my chances of crossing a motorway.

Poor kid.
You can cross the motorway at Hartshead Service Station

croyde

23,952 posts

237 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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From the reports I was thinking that the adult and child had broken down and then left the car to walk along the motorway.

Pieman68

4,264 posts

241 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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heisthegaffer said:
I don't know the area but we're there no bridges nearby to walk across?

I wouldn't fancy my chances of crossing a motorway.

Poor kid.
Not 100% clear yet but they are saying it was following an earlier single vehicle crash. The story doing the rounds locally is that their car had overturned, they escaped and for some inexplicable reason he was crossing from the central reservation to reach the hard shoulder.

Still doesn't explain why the driver didn't stop though. Wild speculation linking the fact that this is very close to the junction with the M606, which links to the driving nirvana that is Bradford.

RIP to the poor kid though.

Silverbullet767

10,921 posts

213 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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You'd definitely know you hit something, a bird flew into my car and knocked off the headlight washer cover, and also this near miss happened to me a good few years ago, still think about what might've happened if I hit him. And yes, I know I should've had my full beam on.

https://youtu.be/ze8-qP5SysM

Drawweight

3,104 posts

123 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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A mate of mine hit and killed someone walking along the Edinburgh bypass in the very early hours a few years ago.

He was driving a milkvan and simply went back to the depot and swapped vans as the windscreen was damaged.

He swears that he thought it was a deer. Personally I think that’s unlikely (coming from someone who’s hit more than their fair share) but I’m not going to call him out on it. Either way that guy is still dead and it wasn’t my mates fault.

He got done for leaving the scene of an accident and driving an unsafe vehicle. Fined and banned for a couple of years.

So it COULD be possible.

budgie smuggler

5,541 posts

166 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Silverbullet767 said:
You'd definitely know you hit something, a bird flew into my car and knocked off the headlight washer cover, and also this near miss happened to me a good few years ago, still think about what might've happened if I hit him. And yes, I know I should've had my full beam on.

https://youtu.be/ze8-qP5SysM
fking hell mate nice reactions

toohuge

3,452 posts

223 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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budgie smuggler said:
Silverbullet767 said:
You'd definitely know you hit something, a bird flew into my car and knocked off the headlight washer cover, and also this near miss happened to me a good few years ago, still think about what might've happened if I hit him. And yes, I know I should've had my full beam on.

https://youtu.be/ze8-qP5SysM
fking hell mate nice reactions
Yep - wow close call

soad

33,462 posts

183 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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This is local to me, the motorway itself is usually well lit.

Tend to avoid the services, only stopped once in three years. Fairly busy, full of HGVs too.