Labour’s solution to housing crisis
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Well interesting to see how Labour deal with the housing crisis. If that was a Tory council there would be outrage. Don’t expect to read this story in the Guardian or see it on the BBC or Sky. Now wait for the posts dismissing it as it’s reported in the Mail.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12368239/...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12368239/...
https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/wo...
Ealing Council said:
It should be absolutely clear that the council is committed to decommissioning Marston Court and re-providing higher quality temporary accommodation.
All fine and a non-story when it's not you living there.The area is probably more of an issue than the shipping containers. If they were in some trendy area people would be falling over themselves to get one.
Housing situation is pretty screwed in this country and there's bugger all chance any flavour of government will do bugger all to actually sort it.
Housing situation is pretty screwed in this country and there's bugger all chance any flavour of government will do bugger all to actually sort it.
dvs_dave said:
Non story, move along.
Wow what an awful POS you are - Dozens of families of various ethnicities acknowledged to be living in squalor, destroying their lives and you say "its a non-story" just because you don't like the newspaper reporting it.It's amazing to me that people who "believe" themselves to be good people are also the same types who will cast aside the pain and suffering of others in a heartbeat if it's the "wrong" media that tells the story.
Just for balance, Tory Hertmere approved and later built exactly the same container homes in Boreham wood. https://www.borehamwoodtimes.co.uk/news/15984774.c...
IanH755 said:
dvs_dave said:
Non story, move along.
Wow what an awful POS you are - Dozens of families of various ethnicities acknowledged to be living in squalor, destroying their lives and you say "its a non-story" just because you don't like the newspaper reporting it.It's amazing to me that people who "believe" themselves to be good people are also the same types who will cast aside the pain and suffering of others in a heartbeat if it's the "wrong" media that tells the story.
t.dvs_dave said:
IanH755 said:
dvs_dave said:
Non story, move along.
Wow what an awful POS you are - Dozens of families of various ethnicities acknowledged to be living in squalor, destroying their lives and you say "its a non-story" just because you don't like the newspaper reporting it.It's amazing to me that people who "believe" themselves to be good people are also the same types who will cast aside the pain and suffering of others in a heartbeat if it's the "wrong" media that tells the story.
t.Having 'shanty towns' built in the UK is an appalling state of affairs and something we should feel very concerned about. Why was it not foreseen that crime would become rife in such an environment?
MikeM6 said:
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Having 'shanty towns' built in the UK is an appalling state of affairs and something we should feel very concerned about. Why was it not foreseen that crime would become rife in such an environment?
The crime thing is an interesting one.Having 'shanty towns' built in the UK is an appalling state of affairs and something we should feel very concerned about. Why was it not foreseen that crime would become rife in such an environment?
Is it what the buildings are made from that's the problem, or the dense populations? What's crime like in the general area this place is located?
Murph7355 said:
The crime thing is an interesting one.
Is it what the buildings are made from that's the problem, or the dense populations? What's crime like in the general area this place is located?
It is usually a combination of a percentage of the people being housed there and the design.Is it what the buildings are made from that's the problem, or the dense populations? What's crime like in the general area this place is located?
In terms of the design high rise flats are usually no more "densely populated" than terraced housing. They became more associated with crime due to the decrease in private space and greater public space, and greater difficulty policing them.
MikeM6 said:
Without the emotional responses clouding the objectivity, he is right in his assessment of your post. You can throw insults if it makes you feel better, but your initial post was very misguided.
Having 'shanty towns' built in the UK is an appalling state of affairs and something we should feel very concerned about. Why was it not foreseen that crime would become rife in such an environment?
The odd thing is, there are worse areas, where those without homes congregate, sleeping rough or in shelters they built themselves. Having 'shanty towns' built in the UK is an appalling state of affairs and something we should feel very concerned about. Why was it not foreseen that crime would become rife in such an environment?
These remind me of the 'prefabs', built after the war in their thousands.
The solution is simple and straightforward. Build affordable housing in London, to buy or rent. The occupants of these homes will leave. Until a government can be bothered to lift the restrictions on councils with regards building/buying housing for rent, while still requiring them to home the homeless, these containers are and albeit temporary solution. Better than a barge I reckon.
Murph7355 said:
The crime thing is an interesting one.
Is it what the buildings are made from that's the problem, or the dense populations? What's crime like in the general area this place is located?
This is what I don't quite get.Is it what the buildings are made from that's the problem, or the dense populations? What's crime like in the general area this place is located?
Clearly something is wrong here but I'm not sure it's the construction of the houses.
People live in "park homes" and prefabs and whilst I'm no expert I doubt those are too far off in construction terms.
Likewise we saw a child killed by mould in "bricks and mortar" housing accommodation (and we also saw his father blamed for his death on here) so I'm not sure it's quite as simple as "the type of building is the problem".
Derek Smith said:
MikeM6 said:
Without the emotional responses clouding the objectivity, he is right in his assessment of your post. You can throw insults if it makes you feel better, but your initial post was very misguided.
Having 'shanty towns' built in the UK is an appalling state of affairs and something we should feel very concerned about. Why was it not foreseen that crime would become rife in such an environment?
The odd thing is, there are worse areas, where those without homes congregate, sleeping rough or in shelters they built themselves. Having 'shanty towns' built in the UK is an appalling state of affairs and something we should feel very concerned about. Why was it not foreseen that crime would become rife in such an environment?
These remind me of the 'prefabs', built after the war in their thousands.
The solution is simple and straightforward. Build affordable housing in London, to buy or rent. The occupants of these homes will leave. Until a government can be bothered to lift the restrictions on councils with regards building/buying housing for rent, while still requiring them to home the homeless, these containers are and albeit temporary solution. Better than a barge I reckon.
The gov't hardly has a sparkling record on this. Nor do councils with local nimbyism. More planning reforms this year will streamline the planning process, making it easier to release more land for housing and to obtain planning permission. Local gov't has been whining already e.g. Wokingham, as usual...like this from not long ago.
https://www.localgov.co.uk/Controversial-planning-...
Derek Smith said:
The odd thing is, there are worse areas, where those without homes congregate, sleeping rough or in shelters they built themselves.
These remind me of the 'prefabs', built after the war in their thousands.
The solution is simple and straightforward. Build affordable housing in London, to buy or rent. The occupants of these homes will leave. Until a government can be bothered to lift the restrictions on councils with regards building/buying housing for rent, while still requiring them to home the homeless, these containers are and albeit temporary solution. Better than a barge I reckon.
Containers are actually a very good option. More details here.These remind me of the 'prefabs', built after the war in their thousands.
The solution is simple and straightforward. Build affordable housing in London, to buy or rent. The occupants of these homes will leave. Until a government can be bothered to lift the restrictions on councils with regards building/buying housing for rent, while still requiring them to home the homeless, these containers are and albeit temporary solution. Better than a barge I reckon.
https://www.container-housing.co.uk/
Done properly of cause.
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