Cake gate,someone must be getting the sack

Cake gate,someone must be getting the sack

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cossy400

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3,252 posts

190 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1236182...

The agency are saying the email has been misconstrued....

I'll never claim to be the brightest button in the box BUT the email trail reads very muchly that they were after a Freeby.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

50 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Getting the sack on account of begging for freebies? Unlikely.

I think the whole "influencer" thing is tacky & demeaning.

number2

4,457 posts

193 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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There's nothing to misconstrue, they were after free stuff in exchange for publicity.

It's embarrassing for the 'star' and the agency, and rightly so.

There's nothing especially wrong with it I suppose, its just a bit council and desperate.

number2

4,457 posts

193 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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A z list celeb is poncing freebies off the back of their ego, writing cheques they can't cash.

When the supplier approaches the celeb and offers, then there's a deal, and usually the celeb is inundated...

In this case it's just a bit embarrassing. No harm done, just a bruised ego I'm sure.


Gareth79

7,976 posts

252 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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MrBogSmith said:
It’s perfectly possible for that transaction to be a win / win situation.

Happens every day in business.

Although the bakery is a localised business so I imagine most of the social media reach would be irrelevant.
These small businesses have read plenty of stores of other small businesses being totally screwed over in the past, so I'm not surprised that may are now turning it down.

Often the "exposure" never materialises, the person doesn't post a tweet/instagram post raving about how wonderful the cake is, if there is anything it might be a name in a tiny font days later.

The other thing which happens is the company orders cakes from 2x companies, one as a backup, and then cancels at the last minute "lol oops well the other ones are nicer".

bloomen

7,227 posts

165 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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If the 'celebrity' was Taylor Swift it would probably be worth sucking PR phallus. Though you'd probably go mad trying to keep up with the demand.

But I expect it's that geezer who used to be in Dollar who now runs a burger van or someone similar.

Oliver Hardy

2,983 posts

80 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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number2 said:
There's nothing to misconstrue, they were after free stuff in exchange for publicity.

It's embarrassing for the 'star' and the agency, and rightly so.

There's nothing especially wrong with it I suppose, its just a bit council and desperate.
Doesn't big business do this all the time with stars getting free cars and designer clothing and jewellery, is that a bit council

bloomen

7,227 posts

165 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Oliver Hardy said:
Doesn't big business do this all the time with stars getting free cars and designer clothing and jewellery, is that a bit council
They've got labour and product to burn though.

If it's a few people in a shed they'd have to go a whole lot further out on a limb.

I guess if you're a proper fancy cake maker that might add up to a lot of labour and ingredients. And I'm sure the PR person knows that, but don't mind.


number2

4,457 posts

193 months

Tuesday 1st August 2023
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Oliver Hardy said:
number2 said:
There's nothing to misconstrue, they were after free stuff in exchange for publicity.

It's embarrassing for the 'star' and the agency, and rightly so.

There's nothing especially wrong with it I suppose, its just a bit council and desperate.
Doesn't big business do this all the time with stars getting free cars and designer clothing and jewellery, is that a bit council
That's the other way round... business leveraging a celeb's status and celeb getting a freebie. There's a mutual benefit.

This is someone trying to ponce freebies because they think they have celeb leverage but in reality they're a soap actor known only to the demographic that watch Coronation Street. There's nothing really in it for the business and a lot of risk as noted above too.

It's not hard to grasp: celeb with inflated ego trying to ponce vs businesses leveraging real value opportunity with celeb with legitimate reach.

Asking for freebies vs being offered freebies.

gotoPzero

18,037 posts

195 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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The whole thing is totally cringe. Ohh look at me I will have a birthday party paid for by Hello.

Hello err don't you know who we are now give us free cakes.

Cake maker.. ohh look at me aren't I clever turning down this begging email.

Ffs all as bad as each other.

Oliver Hardy

2,983 posts

80 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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number2 said:
Oliver Hardy said:
number2 said:
There's nothing to misconstrue, they were after free stuff in exchange for publicity.

It's embarrassing for the 'star' and the agency, and rightly so.

There's nothing especially wrong with it I suppose, its just a bit council and desperate.
Doesn't big business do this all the time with stars getting free cars and designer clothing and jewellery, is that a bit council
That's the other way round... business leveraging a celeb's status and celeb getting a freebie. There's a mutual benefit.

This is someone trying to ponce freebies because they think they have celeb leverage but in reality they're a soap actor known only to the demographic that watch Coronation Street. There's nothing really in it for the business and a lot of risk as noted above too.

It's not hard to grasp: celeb with inflated ego trying to ponce vs businesses leveraging real value opportunity with celeb with legitimate reach.

Asking for freebies vs being offered freebies.
Oh OK,, get your point.

RobinOakapple

2,802 posts

118 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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According to the article it's the party planner who asked for the freebie, not the celebrity named. So I expect the PP was looking to pocket the value of the cakes etc while charging everything at full price to whoever was paying for it.

Oakey

27,759 posts

222 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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RobinOakapple said:
According to the article it's the party planner who asked for the freebie, not the celebrity named. So I expect the PP was looking to pocket the value of the cakes etc while charging everything at full price to whoever was paying for it.
This is the correct answer. I bet the PP isn't accepting payment in exposure

EddieSteadyGo

12,817 posts

209 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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Oakey said:
RobinOakapple said:
According to the article it's the party planner who asked for the freebie, not the celebrity named. So I expect the PP was looking to pocket the value of the cakes etc while charging everything at full price to whoever was paying for it.
This is the correct answer. I bet the PP isn't accepting payment in exposure
That isn't the correct answer, as the article says that the party planning company (NVRLND) was retained by the "celebrity" on an "expenses-only basis".

Louis Balfour

27,412 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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MrBogSmith said:
It’s perfectly possible for that transaction to be a win / win situation.

Doubtful. For a local business that may well not have the capacity to service more demand, if indeed the deal would create that. Which it probably wouldn't.

MrBogSmith said:
Happens every day in business.
Yes it does. Royal warrants? Same deal.

It's all well and good if there is a natural fit between the supplier and the supplied and each actually does stand to gain from the situation, though.

Type R Tom

3,985 posts

155 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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Often with these influencer types, by the time you remove all the bots and the people living too far away to use the business, you are left with tiny numbers of people who may potentially be customers.

The way to do it is offer a referral code and then give the influencer a cut. That approach usually brings an end of the conversation

EddieSteadyGo

12,817 posts

209 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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Louis Balfour said:
Yes it does. Royal warrants? Same deal.
Are you sure about that? I had always assumed that the Royals would want to pay the going rate for any services they contracted, so they avoid exactly this type of controversy.

bigpriest

1,727 posts

136 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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This happened a while ago with those "Real Housewives of Cheshire" types - so I'm told by a source.

Daily Mail

Griffith4ever

4,592 posts

41 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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Loved her response on Facebook. Our workers don't get paid with heart emojis :-)

I get asked a few times a year for heavy discounts or free products (worth around £600 to £1100) for social media coverage. I always ignore them. I have full order books, and I regularly get genuinely delighted people cover my business on their social feeds / YT vids, because, they are happy with the product (and they get more views when reviewing my products ).

S600BSB

5,955 posts

112 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2023
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Let them eat cake