20 year fight to clear name after rape conviction

20 year fight to clear name after rape conviction

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ikarl

Original Poster:

3,739 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Unfortunately, I can think of worse things in life.... but this is absolutely horrendous!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-6...

Spending 14yrs in jail, amongst the nonce population, for a crime he didn't commit. Moreso when you read that the evidence against his was so 'weak'

Wills2

23,963 posts

181 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Holy moly, that is the stuff of nightmares, I hope they have to set him up for life not just with money but with professional help it's beyond awful.


Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?

Rivenink

3,936 posts

112 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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This should serve as a caution to those who believe in violent punishments. It won't. But it should.




Wills2

23,963 posts

181 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Eric Mc said:
Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?
Are you OK? You seem to having a turn.



Some Gump

12,842 posts

192 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Eric Mc said:
Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?
Stop being a cock.

He's linked to bbc news. It's 20 years. Title was probably too long.

MattS5

1,967 posts

197 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Some Gump said:
Eric Mc said:
Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?
Stop being a cock.

He's linked to bbc news. It's 20 years. Title was probably too long.
It's how people get a post count to be proud of.......

irc

8,073 posts

142 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Horrendous. Meanwhile in Scotland the SNP want to change the rules to increase rape convictions. No jury trials. Nobody wants rapists going free but I would rather rapists got off through kack of evidence that innocent men went to jail.

ikarl

Original Poster:

3,739 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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apologies Eric...

As a clever guy I'm sure you quickly worked out I had to remove some words from the title.... didn't remove all of them and posted too quickly. I thought I'd removed the number 20 / BBC News. Again, sorry for that.

thanks for pulling me up and putting me in my place. I'll post with more caution in the future.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

50 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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ikarl said:
Unfortunately, I can think of worse things in life.... but this is absolutely horrendous!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-6...

Spending 14yrs in jail, amongst the nonce population, for a crime he didn't commit. Moreso when you read that the evidence against his was so 'weak'
He hasn't been acquitted. As such he is still a convicted criminal.

I believe in innocent until found guilty but his current (convicted) status is guilty until found innocent.

Stella Tortoise

2,805 posts

149 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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MattS5 said:
Some Gump said:
Eric Mc said:
Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?
Stop being a cock.

He's linked to bbc news. It's 20 years. Title was probably too long.
It's how people get a post count to be proud of.......
Didn’t spot that, 120k posts?

Not sure that proud is the word I’d use.

Sixsixtysix

2,745 posts

172 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Stella Tortoise said:
MattS5 said:
Some Gump said:
Eric Mc said:
Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?
Stop being a cock.

He's linked to bbc news. It's 20 years. Title was probably too long.
It's how people get a post count to be proud of.......
Didn’t spot that, 120k posts?

Not sure that proud is the word I’d use.
It's only around 15 posts a day, every day, for the last 21 years. Nothing unusual at all. Perfectly reasonable.

gruffalo

7,660 posts

232 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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The good news in all this is that the bloke has now won and has cleared his name.

Who knows what he could have achieved with his life if 20 years had not been spent wrongly imprisoned.


Skeptisk

8,087 posts

115 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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On what basis was he arrested in the first place?

His isn’t the first case. There seems to be an institutional inability to consider the possibility that mistakes have been made. Not sure why. There also seems to be a culture of any conviction is better than no conviction.

scenario8

6,761 posts

185 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Hearing him speaking on the steps of the Court if really does sound like he’s been shafted these last twenty years.

I wonder whether all parties have acted entirely properly throughout this saga.

Digger

15,108 posts

197 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Skeptisk said:
On what basis was he arrested in the first place?

His isn’t the first case. There seems to be an institutional inability to consider the possibility that mistakes have been made. Not sure why. There also seems to be a culture of any conviction is better than no conviction.
Apparently he was picked out from the Identity Parade.

greygoose

8,585 posts

201 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Biggy Stardust said:
He hasn't been acquitted. As such he is still a convicted criminal.

I believe in innocent until found guilty but his current (convicted) status is guilty until found innocent.
His conviction has been quashed so he isn't guilty of anything.

Stella Tortoise

2,805 posts

149 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Sixsixtysix said:
Stella Tortoise said:
MattS5 said:
Some Gump said:
Eric Mc said:
Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?
Stop being a cock.

He's linked to bbc news. It's 20 years. Title was probably too long.
It's how people get a post count to be proud of.......
Didn’t spot that, 120k posts?

Not sure that proud is the word I’d use.
It's only around 15 posts a day, every day, for the last 21 years. Nothing unusual at all. Perfectly reasonable.
In my view it’s a massive commitment, don’t forget holidays/work days/sick days and any other days when posting isn’t appropriate.

This will mean way in excess of 15 posts per day which in itself sound bloody exhausting.

bitchstewie

54,519 posts

216 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Rivenink said:
This should serve as a caution to those who believe in violent punishments. It won't. But it should.
Quite.

Pour encourager les autres.

NerveAgent

3,507 posts

226 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Rivenink said:
This should serve as a caution to those who believe in violent punishments. It won't. But it should.
yes

Quite a lot on here are the blood thirsty sort too.