20 year fight to clear name after rape conviction

20 year fight to clear name after rape conviction

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ikarl

Original Poster:

3,741 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Unfortunately, I can think of worse things in life.... but this is absolutely horrendous!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-6...

Spending 14yrs in jail, amongst the nonce population, for a crime he didn't commit. Moreso when you read that the evidence against his was so 'weak'

Wills2

24,429 posts

182 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Holy moly, that is the stuff of nightmares, I hope they have to set him up for life not just with money but with professional help it's beyond awful.


Eric Mc

122,864 posts

272 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?

Rivenink

3,936 posts

113 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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This should serve as a caution to those who believe in violent punishments. It won't. But it should.




Wills2

24,429 posts

182 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Eric Mc said:
Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?
Are you OK? You seem to having a turn.



Some Gump

12,869 posts

193 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Eric Mc said:
Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?
Stop being a cock.

He's linked to bbc news. It's 20 years. Title was probably too long.

MattS5

1,990 posts

198 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Some Gump said:
Eric Mc said:
Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?
Stop being a cock.

He's linked to bbc news. It's 20 years. Title was probably too long.
It's how people get a post count to be proud of.......

irc

8,214 posts

143 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Horrendous. Meanwhile in Scotland the SNP want to change the rules to increase rape convictions. No jury trials. Nobody wants rapists going free but I would rather rapists got off through kack of evidence that innocent men went to jail.

ikarl

Original Poster:

3,741 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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apologies Eric...

As a clever guy I'm sure you quickly worked out I had to remove some words from the title.... didn't remove all of them and posted too quickly. I thought I'd removed the number 20 / BBC News. Again, sorry for that.

thanks for pulling me up and putting me in my place. I'll post with more caution in the future.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

51 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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ikarl said:
Unfortunately, I can think of worse things in life.... but this is absolutely horrendous!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-6...

Spending 14yrs in jail, amongst the nonce population, for a crime he didn't commit. Moreso when you read that the evidence against his was so 'weak'
He hasn't been acquitted. As such he is still a convicted criminal.

I believe in innocent until found guilty but his current (convicted) status is guilty until found innocent.

Stella Tortoise

2,855 posts

150 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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MattS5 said:
Some Gump said:
Eric Mc said:
Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?
Stop being a cock.

He's linked to bbc news. It's 20 years. Title was probably too long.
It's how people get a post count to be proud of.......
Didn’t spot that, 120k posts?

Not sure that proud is the word I’d use.

Sixsixtysix

2,752 posts

173 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Stella Tortoise said:
MattS5 said:
Some Gump said:
Eric Mc said:
Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?
Stop being a cock.

He's linked to bbc news. It's 20 years. Title was probably too long.
It's how people get a post count to be proud of.......
Didn’t spot that, 120k posts?

Not sure that proud is the word I’d use.
It's only around 15 posts a day, every day, for the last 21 years. Nothing unusual at all. Perfectly reasonable.

gruffalo

7,689 posts

233 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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The good news in all this is that the bloke has now won and has cleared his name.

Who knows what he could have achieved with his life if 20 years had not been spent wrongly imprisoned.


Skeptisk

8,254 posts

116 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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On what basis was he arrested in the first place?

His isn’t the first case. There seems to be an institutional inability to consider the possibility that mistakes have been made. Not sure why. There also seems to be a culture of any conviction is better than no conviction.

scenario8

6,846 posts

186 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Hearing him speaking on the steps of the Court if really does sound like he’s been shafted these last twenty years.

I wonder whether all parties have acted entirely properly throughout this saga.

Digger

15,183 posts

198 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Skeptisk said:
On what basis was he arrested in the first place?

His isn’t the first case. There seems to be an institutional inability to consider the possibility that mistakes have been made. Not sure why. There also seems to be a culture of any conviction is better than no conviction.
Apparently he was picked out from the Identity Parade.

greygoose

8,646 posts

202 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Biggy Stardust said:
He hasn't been acquitted. As such he is still a convicted criminal.

I believe in innocent until found guilty but his current (convicted) status is guilty until found innocent.
His conviction has been quashed so he isn't guilty of anything.

Stella Tortoise

2,855 posts

150 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Sixsixtysix said:
Stella Tortoise said:
MattS5 said:
Some Gump said:
Eric Mc said:
Firstly - the story has nothing to do with the BBC

Secondly - 20 what?
Stop being a cock.

He's linked to bbc news. It's 20 years. Title was probably too long.
It's how people get a post count to be proud of.......
Didn’t spot that, 120k posts?

Not sure that proud is the word I’d use.
It's only around 15 posts a day, every day, for the last 21 years. Nothing unusual at all. Perfectly reasonable.
In my view it’s a massive commitment, don’t forget holidays/work days/sick days and any other days when posting isn’t appropriate.

This will mean way in excess of 15 posts per day which in itself sound bloody exhausting.

bitchstewie

55,239 posts

217 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Rivenink said:
This should serve as a caution to those who believe in violent punishments. It won't. But it should.
Quite.

Pour encourager les autres.

NerveAgent

3,545 posts

227 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Rivenink said:
This should serve as a caution to those who believe in violent punishments. It won't. But it should.
yes

Quite a lot on here are the blood thirsty sort too.