Obsession with reporting wild fires

Obsession with reporting wild fires

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Pistom

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5,590 posts

166 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Why are wild fires so much in the news?

We get them every year when we have long spells of dry weather and they start for various reasons and often impossible to put out.

I remember the massive fire on Rhodes in the late 70s and it was just left to burn.

Not sure what makes these fires so newsworthy these days.

grumbledoak

31,857 posts

240 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Just another less than subtle nudge on the climate agenda, probably

It's an "emergency" now, dontcha know.




Rufus Stone

8,285 posts

63 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Do you really not?

JagLover

43,831 posts

242 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Wildfires are also an interesting one because in the past there were managed burns in forests to reduce the damage from a wildfire if it expanded.

As for media reporting I think you know the answer there. Driving the current agenda as always to build public acceptance of massive green levies, much of which is to go in the pockets of the rich and powerful.

andyA700

3,346 posts

44 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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grumbledoak said:
Just another less than subtle nudge on the climate agenda, probably

It's an "emergency" now, dontcha know.

Looking at that, we have had global cooling over the past six years. I don't know how 22C at the end of June ever entered the red zone, that is cool to normal.

BoRED S2upid

20,348 posts

247 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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It’s the biggest bad news story happening. That and Ukraine. Obviously not going to report good news stories are they. Or our horrible weather.

wisbech

3,111 posts

128 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Pictures are pointless without saying what time of day the forecasts are for. May not be comparing apples with apples. One may be for 1pm, the other for 7am

As to the question- it’s because summer is slow news, and there is a strong ‘human interest’ angle. Many of us have been on holiday to the Greek islands, and there are lots of UK families there at the moment. For comparison, there wasn’t much coverage of the California wild fires, as limited UK interest

FWIW, the massive bushfires in Australia in 2019/20 (the ‘black summer’) did contribute to the government’s defeat in the next election, because their response was cack handed, and the PM tried to downplay climate change as a cause. Plus he went to Hawaii on a holiday during the worst of it.


Evanivitch

22,077 posts

129 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Pistom said:
Why are wild fires so much in the news?

We get them every year when we have long spells of dry weather and they start for various reasons and often impossible to put out.

I remember the massive fire on Rhodes in the late 70s and it was just left to burn.

Not sure what makes these fires so newsworthy these days.
You don't think an event causing thousands of people to evacuate is newsworthy?

Tickle

5,270 posts

211 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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The BBC using tourist phone footage shot in portrait mode is a tough watch.

I have a feeling any wild fires from the continent will be reported now, ones that would be totally un-newsworthy if it were not for the Rhodes fires.

Rollin

6,176 posts

252 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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grumbledoak said:
Just another less than subtle nudge on the climate agenda, probably

It's an "emergency" now, dontcha know.

'A broadcast from June 1999 shows a red map with temperatures between 25 and 30C. A broadcast in 2010 also shows the use of different maps.'

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.32FV7W7


Zarco

18,497 posts

216 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Evanivitch said:
Pistom said:
Why are wild fires so much in the news?

We get them every year when we have long spells of dry weather and they start for various reasons and often impossible to put out.

I remember the massive fire on Rhodes in the late 70s and it was just left to burn.

Not sure what makes these fires so newsworthy these days.
You don't think an event causing thousands of people to evacuate is newsworthy?
In a place that many people are about to travel to for a holiday.


glazbagun

14,489 posts

204 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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BoRED S2upid said:
It’s the biggest bad news story happening. That and Ukraine. Obviously not going to report good news stories are they. Or our horrible weather.
This. Stressed British tourists to interview about surviving a natural disaster makes great TV, as do shots of mountains burning down for your front page.

Apart from Russia's latest crimes, I can't think of a better front page. "The government are st" is hardly news any more. Does OP think we're missing something juicier?

Sporky

7,329 posts

71 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Rollin said:
'A broadcast from June 1999 shows a red map with temperatures between 25 and 30C. A broadcast in 2010 also shows the use of different maps.'

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.32FV7W7
Climate change deniers in making-things-up-again non-shocker.

andy43

10,620 posts

261 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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There are reports it’s arson in Rhodes.

ARHarh

4,289 posts

114 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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glazbagun said:
BoRED S2upid said:
It’s the biggest bad news story happening. That and Ukraine. Obviously not going to report good news stories are they. Or our horrible weather.
This. Stressed British tourists to interview about surviving a natural disaster makes great TV, as do shots of mountains burning down for your front page.

Apart from Russia's latest crimes, I can't think of a better front page. "The government are st" is hardly news any more. Does OP think we're missing something juicier?
Add to that all the tourists having to spend the night in a sports hall with no luggage, some holiday companies not sending out teams of reps to stroke them gently till they calm down, and then the government not sending out some planes to rescue them smile

Should have gone on holiday to Wales, not likely to get dry enough for a wild fire there smile

V8covin

7,903 posts

200 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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JagLover said:
Wildfires are also an interesting one because in the past there were managed burns in forests to reduce the damage from a wildfire if it expanded.

As for media reporting I think you know the answer there. Driving the current agenda as always to build public acceptance of massive green levies, much of which is to go in the pockets of the rich and powerful.
Last week BBC news were reporting on the out of control fires in Rhodes threatening lives while simultaneously showing video of firemen setting fires themselves to create barren areas so not out of control at all then.....in that particular area I will add.
The BBC report on a news story and just flog it to death even when nothing new has happened,they have screen time to fill I guess

Ian Geary

4,739 posts

199 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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wisbech said:
Pictures are pointless without saying what time of day the forecasts are for. May not be comparing apples with apples. One may be for 1pm, the other for 7am
It might still be quite early, bitt I'm pretty sure the issue being highlighted is not the "actual" temperature values, which could indeed be from any time of day.

The issue seems to be more that in 2017 a green background was judged sufficient, but by 2023 a harsh red background has been adopted.

And yet, the temperatures set on the dramatic red background are actually lower than the 2017 ones.

I remember the fuss made in the UK when the been changed their green weather map for a sort of olive brown. (Their basis was it was a truer representation of the actual colour of the UK)

This German colour change is unlikely to be coincidental - it has been selected deliberately to convey a message.




Having said all of that, I don't think the reporting of fires is excessive. And I don't think every natural disaster needs a rider " oh but of course we had fires in the 70s too, so it can't possibly be climate change" to go with it.

Weather just happens. Climate is the trend.

PositronicRay

27,536 posts

190 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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Do you think it better to report 100s of flights cancelled but not tell anyone why?

PositronicRay

27,536 posts

190 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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andy43 said:
There are reports it’s arson in Rhodes.
https://neoskosmos.com/en/2023/07/24/news/greece/local-man-questioned-for-alleged-arson-as-fires-engulf-rhodes-greece/


Not sure how trustworthy Greek rozzers are though.

Edited by PositronicRay on Monday 24th July 08:10

AW111

9,674 posts

140 months

Monday 24th July 2023
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V8covin said:
Last week BBC news were reporting on the out of control fires in Rhodes threatening lives while simultaneously showing video of firemen setting fires themselves to create barren areas so not out of control at all then.....in that particular area I will add.
The BBC report on a news story and just flog it to death even when nothing new has happened,they have screen time to fill I guess
Putting in a fire break does not mean the fire is under control at all : the fire break is an attempt to stop it spreading.