The BBC will means test you

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devnull

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3,788 posts

163 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66140890

I can’t see this ever flying, but this seems faintly ludicrous. Hopefully it’s just a “thinking out loud” type of article but the notion of being told to pay more for a TV and Radio service because you’re well off doesn’t sit well.


Tankrizzo

7,466 posts

199 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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Yeah this seems fairly ridiculous for an optional service you don't need. It's like being asked to pay more in a restaurant for food because you're wealthy.

fat80b

2,436 posts

227 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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I had to check that it wasn’t April 1st when I read this.

I am getting increasingly peed off that every way we look there is an argument that those that pay the most should pay even more.

The idea that a service like this should be charged based on your ability to pay is frankly absurd but it does seem to be everywhere now.

What next - adjust the price of a pint based on how much you get paid. It’s hard not to think that the idea a government digital currency enables exactly this kind of crazy logic.

bitchstewie

54,532 posts

216 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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So the former chairman suggests one way the BBC could change their license model.

That doesn't seem like it's "the BBC will means test you" or have I misunderstood what Sharp said?

Niponeoff

2,404 posts

33 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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Should charge per TV inch. That would push the cost onto the council house population hehe

munroman

1,876 posts

190 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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Simpler still, stop watching the nest of woke and refuge for kiddy fiddler's, and don't pay the BBC tax, which is regressive.

(And is that not the dodgy pal of Johnson who doesn't seem to have a moral compass?)

Rufus Stone

7,678 posts

62 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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bhstewie said:
So the former chairman suggests one way the BBC could change their license model.

That doesn't seem like it's "the BBC will means test you" or have I misunderstood what Sharp said?
Yes, he's referring to the licence fee. biggrin

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

50 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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munroman said:
don't pay the BBC tax, which is regressive.
Note that it also unfairly penalises women, apparently. I'm only surprised that it wasn't unfair to various minorities too.

rigga

8,748 posts

207 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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Biggy Stardust said:
munroman said:
don't pay the BBC tax, which is regressive.
Note that it also unfairly penalises women, apparently. I'm only surprised that it wasn't unfair to various minorities too.
There's a higher proportion of women who get prosecuted for TV licence evasion, due to being the ones at home when the investigators knock knock.

Ian Geary

4,699 posts

198 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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All someone needs to do is produce a study that the licence fee affects minorities adversely, and it will be dropped quicker than a presenter caught buying under age porn.

Or, it will be charged based on your cultures' past oppression of minorities.


So could go either way I suppose.

Suddenly a flat rate doesn't seem all that bad.

bigpriest

1,727 posts

136 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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Broadband bills are nothing to do with household income - I imagine many older residents never go through the pain of having to negotiate a better deal each year and just pay the increased amount when the bill arrives. They're probably paying the most.

CubanPete

3,637 posts

194 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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Niponeoff said:
Should charge per TV inch. That would push the cost onto the council house population hehe
This is the only meaningful measure.




If it wasn't for the OH watching Sewing Bee and Strictly, our TV license would be gone.

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

89 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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Recent news about the easyjet flight that couldnt take off till passengers got off comes to mind.
Why am I paying extra if my hand luggage is 0.05kg over when some barrage balloon behind me gets the same price flight?
Paying extra would encourage them to lose weight.
I doubt someone paying a bit extra for tvl would try and get poor.
Oi mr prime minister,yes you Richi ,sort this one out for more votes!

turbobloke

106,938 posts

266 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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bhstewie said:
That doesn't seem like it's "the BBC will means test you" or have I misunderstood what Sharp said?
It's certainly more than that - ex BBC chap, with good judgement as per the Boris Johnson loan, wants more pie in the sky for his former work chums as his political chums work on removing the BBC's archaic funding model. Conflicted? It's a hard hard life.

captain_cynic

13,055 posts

101 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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bhstewie said:
So the former chairman suggests one way the BBC could change their license model.

That doesn't seem like it's "the BBC will means test you" or have I misunderstood what Sharp said?
No, but don't bring fact and reason into this froth fest.

turbobloke

106,938 posts

266 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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captain_cynic said:
bhstewie said:
So the former chairman suggests one way the BBC could change their license model.

That doesn't seem like it's "the BBC will means test you" or have I misunderstood what Sharp said?
No, but don't bring fact and reason into this froth fest.
Quite right.

Form an orderly queue to defend a Boris loan dude rich Tory donor brexiteer wink

bitchstewie

54,532 posts

216 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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Don't be daft.

Sharp has said the BBC might have to look at an alternative to a "one size fits all" license fee at some point in the future.

I doubt that's a surprise to anyone and it certainly isn't "the BBC will means test you".

turbobloke

106,938 posts

266 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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Elephant invisible again, that was a daft thing in haste, visible Charter review is linked but separate apparently.

https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/170/com...

Square Leg

14,856 posts

195 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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Can’t blame the Beeb really - they need to pay their people more so they can pay other people for nuddy pics.

The Ferret

1,167 posts

166 months

Saturday 8th July 2023
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If the BBC is so successful and popular it should thrive under a subscription model.

Defund it completely, and let people pay for it if they choose to.

We all know how that would turn out.