WHO continuing digital health passport push - June 2023

[Pistom]

Interesting to read this artice about WHO announcing a partnership with European Commission utilising the EU's digital certification.

https://www.who.int/news/item/05-06-2023-the-europ...

It's said to "help facilitate global mobility".

Isn't that newspeak for restricting global mobility?

[captain_cynic]

No it isn't.

Now take your meds.

[Ivan stewart]

captain_cynic said:

No it isn't.

Now take your meds.

Would they be Chinese ones ??

[Douglas Quaid]

I can’t really see how needing a pass that shows you’ve taken whatever jabs have been deemed necessary to enable you to travel helps with global mobility and freedom. What if you can’t or don’t want to take whatever jabs are on the pass that year?

It never really made sense from a disease perspective to have a covid pass as the jabs didn’t stop transmission so i can’t really see how a vaccine passport really helps people or solves any problems. It potentially could make some people very wealthy though if it is deemed necessary to have a jab for Bovid 25 or whatever or you’re not allowed on a plane.

[smn159]

I'd have thought that anyone who voted for Brexit would be in favour of restricting global mobility

[Mr Whippy]

smn159 said:

I'd have thought that anyone who voted for Brexit would be in favour of restricting global mobility

I voted for Brexit.

The logic being a desire for less layers and expense from rule-making cretins.

It was nothing to do with anything except that. Less rules, less controls, more freedom, more democratic control, etc.



Surely voting for opaque, arbitrary, unaccountable rule making groups is more what ‘remoaners’ wanted?

[anonymous-user]

smn159 said:

I'd have thought that anyone who voted for Brexit would be in favour of restricting global mobility

Just not their global mobility.

[NDA]

Douglas Quaid said:

I can’t really see how needing a pass that shows you’ve taken whatever jabs have been deemed necessary to enable you to travel helps with global mobility and freedom. .

It doesn't help at all - however there are many countries that require you to be vaccinated against all sorts of things - hepatitis B · Japanese encephalitis · meningitis · rabies · tick-borne encephalitis · tuberculosis (TB) · yellow fever etc.

A bit of a nuisance.

[PurplePangolin]

Ivan stewart said:

captain_cynic said:

No it isn't.

Now take your meds.

Would they be Chinese ones ??

Nope. Pfizer or Moderna

[anonymous-user]

NDA said:

It doesn't help at all - however there are many countries that require you to be vaccinated against all sorts of things - hepatitis B · Japanese encephalitis · meningitis · rabies · tick-borne encephalitis · tuberculosis (TB) · yellow fever etc.

A bit of a nuisance.

Yeah, I'm not sure much of Africa gives a toss about your vaccination views.

And then you get numpties like this. https://www.connexionfrance.com/article/French-new...

[Terminator X]

Mr Whippy said:

smn159 said:

I'd have thought that anyone who voted for Brexit would be in favour of restricting global mobility

I voted for Brexit.

The logic being a desire for less layers and expense from rule-making cretins.

It was nothing to do with anything except that. Less rules, less controls, more freedom, more democratic control, etc.



Surely voting for opaque, arbitrary, unaccountable rule making groups is more what ‘remoaners’ wanted?

Don't be daft you must be a racist and a xenophobe as well as being thick as pig st.

TX.

[BoRED S2upid]

Douglas Quaid said:

I can’t really see how needing a pass that shows you’ve taken whatever jabs have been deemed necessary to enable you to travel helps with global mobility and freedom. What if you can’t or don’t want to take whatever jabs are on the pass that year?

It never really made sense from a disease perspective to have a covid pass as the jabs didn’t stop transmission so i can’t really see how a vaccine passport really helps people or solves any problems. It potentially could make some people very wealthy though if it is deemed necessary to have a jab for Bovid 25 or whatever or you’re not allowed on a plane.

Hasn’t this always been the case though? Going to Africa you need malaria treatment, going to other countries you might need polio or other jabs.

[Pistom]

BoRED S2upid said:

Hasn’t this always been the case though? Going to Africa you need malaria treatment, going to other countries you might need polio or other jabs.

In my mind, this way of looking at it used to be a perfectly reasonable way of thinking about it but sadly, it's all too evident now that some in decision making positions don't know what the best course of action is, make decisions based on flawed evidence or simply make decisions I don't like.

At one time we didn't know enough to know that what we know is not enough to know what's bad for us.

These days we know that we don't always know enough to make the right decisions so it's even more important that as individuals we retain the right to make the wrong decisions based on how little we know rather than being forced by someone who says they know when in fact all they do know is that they're going to get rich from it.