London hotel rooms too small?
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https://fb.watch/kYmIdvs4od/
Could be one reason why there's no longer possibility getting cheap'ish rooms,why would hotel chains turn down long term ever increasing business?
Could be one reason why there's no longer possibility getting cheap'ish rooms,why would hotel chains turn down long term ever increasing business?
A very biased interviewer and the comments on FB make interesting reading. Even a few years on still clearly a lot of pro Brexiteers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Tice
I have however also noticed the cheap (well for London) hotels are pretty rare these days. Stayed in some of those in the past when work necessitated and it was me rather than a company picking up the tab. They were often still pretty pricey considering they were far from great.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Tice
I have however also noticed the cheap (well for London) hotels are pretty rare these days. Stayed in some of those in the past when work necessitated and it was me rather than a company picking up the tab. They were often still pretty pricey considering they were far from great.
Giantt said:
https://fb.watch/kYmIdvs4od/
Could be one reason why there's no longer possibility getting cheap'ish rooms,why would hotel chains turn down long term ever increasing business?
The hotel rooms that the Govt are putting the Asylum Seekers into are pretty crap to be honest. That being said, if you're an asylum seeker then should you not be grateful that you HAVE a room over your head and food?Could be one reason why there's no longer possibility getting cheap'ish rooms,why would hotel chains turn down long term ever increasing business?
Countdown said:
Giantt said:
https://fb.watch/kYmIdvs4od/
Could be one reason why there's no longer possibility getting cheap'ish rooms,why would hotel chains turn down long term ever increasing business?
The hotel rooms that the Govt are putting the Asylum Seekers into are pretty crap to be honest. That being said, if you're an asylum seeker then should you not be grateful that you HAVE a room over your head and food?Could be one reason why there's no longer possibility getting cheap'ish rooms,why would hotel chains turn down long term ever increasing business?
LOL a few years ago, I booked a weekend break in London from an add in a newspaper. got there and it was a DSS doss house, kids playing the lobby, holes in doors etc. There are some proper s
tty "hotels" in London.
You have to question why on earth asylum seekers are being housed in London surely there is more cost effective locations?
tty "hotels" in London. You have to question why on earth asylum seekers are being housed in London surely there is more cost effective locations?
nikaiyo2 said:
You have to question why on earth asylum seekers are being housed in London surely there is more cost effective locations?
There might be reporting requirements (ie they have to physically turn up somewhere locally whilst their claim is being processed, to prove they havent absconded)scot_aln said:
A very biased interviewer and the comments on FB make interesting reading. Even a few years on still clearly a lot of pro Brexiteers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Tice
I have however also noticed the cheap (well for London) hotels are pretty rare these days. Stayed in some of those in the past when work necessitated and it was me rather than a company picking up the tab. They were often still pretty pricey considering they were far from great.
oh my...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Tice
I have however also noticed the cheap (well for London) hotels are pretty rare these days. Stayed in some of those in the past when work necessitated and it was me rather than a company picking up the tab. They were often still pretty pricey considering they were far from great.
Countdown said:
The hotel rooms that the Govt are putting the Asylum Seekers into are pretty crap to be honest. That being said, if you're an asylum seeker then should you not be grateful that you HAVE a room over your head and food?
They're welcome to leave & return to where they came from. Biggy Stardust said:
Countdown said:
The hotel rooms that the Govt are putting the Asylum Seekers into are pretty crap to be honest. That being said, if you're an asylum seeker then should you not be grateful that you HAVE a room over your head and food?
They're welcome to leave & return to where they came from. I know you just meant the comment as a parody of the typical heartless and thoughtless nonsense that pervades any conversation about immigration and asylum, but it's unhelpful at best to pretend this kind of simplistic idea is some kind of solution, or use it to justify the government's performative and futile-as-a-deterrent nastiness.
Interesting that the last bit of pointless fake deterrence has been quietly withdrawn after it collapsed under its own stupidity too.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jun/08/ke...
E63eeeeee... said:
Biggy Stardust said:
Countdown said:
The hotel rooms that the Govt are putting the Asylum Seekers into are pretty crap to be honest. That being said, if you're an asylum seeker then should you not be grateful that you HAVE a room over your head and food?
They're welcome to leave & return to where they came from. I know you just meant the comment as a parody of the typical heartless and thoughtless nonsense that pervades any conversation about immigration and asylum, but it's unhelpful at best to pretend this kind of simplistic idea is some kind of solution, or use it to justify the government's performative and futile-as-a-deterrent nastiness.
I was going to say more but this is sufficient.
E63eeeeee... said:
That's not necessarily true. They'll often have no legal documentation to travel on, and it's not like you can get a direct flight to Kabul, even if you actually have money, which they often won't because they paid it to get here and they're not allowed to work. You could expect them to country-hop back, but there's no reason why France would let them in undocumented, and it's not like there's a smuggling route going the other way. In theory they could offer to voluntarily depart, but then you'd need the country in question to let them back in, and potentially have a bunch of logistical challenges in just getting them there.
I know you just meant the comment as a parody of the typical heartless and thoughtless nonsense that pervades any conversation about immigration and asylum, but it's unhelpful at best to pretend this kind of simplistic idea is some kind of solution, or use it to justify the government's performative and futile-as-a-deterrent nastiness.
Interesting that the last bit of pointless fake deterrence has been quietly withdrawn after it collapsed under its own stupidity too.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jun/08/ke...
heartless and thoughtless nonsense?I know you just meant the comment as a parody of the typical heartless and thoughtless nonsense that pervades any conversation about immigration and asylum, but it's unhelpful at best to pretend this kind of simplistic idea is some kind of solution, or use it to justify the government's performative and futile-as-a-deterrent nastiness.
Interesting that the last bit of pointless fake deterrence has been quietly withdrawn after it collapsed under its own stupidity too.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jun/08/ke...
nasty deterrant to stop people dying.
It irks people as it appears ungrateful. which in a way it is. if someone is truly in fear and seeking refuge they would be happy with any safe port/conditions, the issue some have is these people clearly don't, they cross many safe places to get here which infers they are not really seeking refuge.
I know the reasons are many, familial, language but in many cases its economic.
I dont care either way, these folk are not really a problem, they are simply the ones who used to come via the chunnel now by boat.
those in charge simply stoke up frothers to hide behind the quite unsustainable legal migration figures...yes we could take students out but they invariably don't go home and neither do their families who come over, and despite the students paying fees they are taken as a whole net takers. Legal migration is a huge issue at current levels as our creaking infrastructure cant cope, but no one seems to care.
Most problems faced are caused by the increase in population. House prices, seeing a dr, waiting lists, busy roads, swathes of crap housing being driven through by cretinous property developers/lawyers on already fit to bursting towns and villages.
we dont seem to have the ability or desire to sort the infrastructure out for those here 15 years ago, let alone all those here since. sort that out and the current levels become sustainable, if not necessarily desirable, for what is in its most relevant parts to this debate (southern England) a overcrowded little space.
theplayingmantis said:
heartless and thoughtless nonsense?
nasty deterrant to stop people dying.
yes we could take students out but they invariably don't go home and neither do their families who come over, .
(Snipped some other stuff which I mostly either agree with or think is fair comment.)
Treating asylum seekers like snasty deterrant to stop people dying.
yes we could take students out but they invariably don't go home and neither do their families who come over, .
(Snipped some other stuff which I mostly either agree with or think is fair comment.)
t obviously doesn't work as a deterrent. Anyone would choose miserable in the UK over dead in Syria. It just demeans us as a country, and mostly makes the overall system more expensive and less effective. Students do go home. There's a lot of research about it. Google the Migrant Journey for starters. Whether that's a good thing is another question, when we need all the smart educated people we can get.
Biggy Stardust said:
They're resourceful enough to get here, they're resourceful enough to find their way back if they don't feel we're generous enough. They are no longer seeking "refuge".
I was going to say more but this is sufficient.
Very wise, reduce the attack surface, as the cyber security kids say. I was going to say more but this is sufficient.
Of course you haven't addressed any of the reasons I set out why you're wrong, so you're just re-stating your original over-simplistic premise, but never mind. At least it was pithy.
E63eeeeee... said:
That's not necessarily true. They'll often have no legal documentation to travel on,
Surely obtaining copies of legal docs they throw away can't be that hard.Most are single young men so most will have family back home, a phone call to parents please send me a copy of my birth certificate/id card and so on please
Edited by Oliver Hardy on Saturday 10th June 00:29
crankedup5 said:
Ungrateful much.
A roof, three meals a day + some weekly pocket money, what the hell have they run-a-way from to look this gift horse in the mouth!
Hmm... how many of them do you reckon, given the chance to work, pay taxes and support themselves would turn it down and keep this wonderful gift horse instead?A roof, three meals a day + some weekly pocket money, what the hell have they run-a-way from to look this gift horse in the mouth!
Oliver Hardy said:
E63eeeeee... said:
That's not necessarily true. They'll often have no legal documentation to travel on,
Surely obtaining copies of legal docs they throw away can't be that hard.Most are single young men so most will have family back home, a phone call to parents please send me a copy of my birth certificate/id card and so on please.
"Hi Mum, it's me! Please can you pop over to my place and grab my birth certificate? I know the building got bombed by ISIS, but I was in a top floor flat, so you shouldn't have to dig through all that much rubble to find it!"
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