Bournemouth beach incident

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Gareth1974

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146 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Two dead, 8 injured and a man arrested.

No real details about what happened in the news so far. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-6577146...

Edited by Gareth1974 on Thursday 1st June 09:04

BrettMRC

4,491 posts

167 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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It does seem strange - on the one hand they are reporting a man arrested for manslaughter, then on the other reminding people to swim safely etc?

Fermit

13,240 posts

107 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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I read elsewhere that 'a man aged in his 40s, who was on the water at the time, has been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter.' This may suggest that a jet-ski or boat was involved?

Bill

54,288 posts

262 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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The arrested man is described as "on the water at the time" so suggests it's boat/watercraft related. Horrific whatever happened.

V8covin

7,901 posts

200 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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I read he was encouraging them to jump.....maybe he was filming them for a YouTube video or something,who knows.
Tragic

oakdale

1,875 posts

209 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Latest I've seen says he was on a jet ski.

LeighW

4,714 posts

195 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Mail link:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12147275/...

'group of 10 youngsters jumped off pier and were dragged out to sea by riptide'


V8covin

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200 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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oakdale said:
Latest I've seen says he was on a jet ski.
One of the lifeguards was on a jet ski,may have been him

oakdale

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209 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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V8covin said:
oakdale said:
Latest I've seen says he was on a jet ski.
One of the lifeguards was on a jet ski,may have been him
Jet ski mentioned here.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bo...


blueg33

38,620 posts

231 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Some reports say they were dragged out by a rip-tide

I wish schools would teach beach safety. Rips are usually very localised and you basically swim across them to get out of the rip.

Where there are waves there are rips, you can even see them from the beach as an area of smaller flatter waves.

It really is basic stuff

98elise

28,279 posts

168 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Police have said no vessel involved...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bo...

Yertis

18,685 posts

273 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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blueg33 said:
Some reports say they were dragged out by a rip-tide

I wish schools would teach beach safety. Rips are usually very localised and you basically swim across them to get out of the rip.

Where there are waves there are rips, you can even see them from the beach as an area of smaller flatter waves.

It really is basic stuff
I grew up on that stretch of coast, rip currents were never a thing then, forty years ago, so far as I recall. We just used to swim out a quarter mile or so and sit on the sandbanks, wait for the tide to come in then swim back. Lovely. But apparently they are a thing now. I wonder what's changed?

ReallyReallyGood

1,632 posts

137 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Man was ‘on’ the water, not hit by a vessel, yet someone is arrested for manslaughter? Fell out of a banana boat or something?

Tankrizzo

7,539 posts

200 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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The only thing I can think is that some bloke was encouraging a bunch of kids to jump off the pier into water that was too shallow, all at the same time.

blueg33

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231 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Yertis said:
blueg33 said:
Some reports say they were dragged out by a rip-tide

I wish schools would teach beach safety. Rips are usually very localised and you basically swim across them to get out of the rip.

Where there are waves there are rips, you can even see them from the beach as an area of smaller flatter waves.

It really is basic stuff
I grew up on that stretch of coast, rip currents were never a thing then, forty years ago, so far as I recall. We just used to swim out a quarter mile or so and sit on the sandbanks, wait for the tide to come in then swim back. Lovely. But apparently they are a thing now. I wonder what's changed?
I used to windsurf there and Boscombe weekly when I lived there back in the late 1980's. Rips were and are a thing. If there are waves there are rips - waves bring piles of water to the beach, it has to flow back to sea. Its does not flow evenly across a whole beach it flows in channels causing rips.

Its only where there are few small waves that there wont be a discernible rip somewhere


SteveStrange

4,948 posts

220 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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blueg33 said:
Some reports say they were dragged out by a rip-tide

I wish schools would teach beach safety. Rips are usually very localised and you basically swim across them to get out of the rip.

Where there are waves there are rips, you can even see them from the beach as an area of smaller flatter waves.

It really is basic stuff
Would rips be a thing if the water was deep enough to be able to jump in to from a pier? I've only ever experienced them in shallower water - still amazingly powerful and scary if you don't know what to do, but I didn't think they happened in deeper water.

98elise

28,279 posts

168 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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ReallyReallyGood said:
Man was ‘on’ the water, not hit by a vessel, yet someone is arrested for manslaughter? Fell out of a banana boat or something?
It is very odd with what's being reported, and the lack of detail.

You would think that it being a public beach there would be plenty of eye witnesses to what happened.

Bill

54,288 posts

262 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Yertis said:
I grew up on that stretch of coast, rip currents were never a thing then, forty years ago, so far as I recall. We just used to swim out a quarter mile or so and sit on the sandbanks, wait for the tide to come in then swim back. Lovely. But apparently they are a thing now. I wonder what's changed?
I love there now and agree. But the tide does run along the beach quite fast and you could easily wear yourself out trying to swim against it back to the pier. We swim out to the 5 knot markers and it can take 45 minutes to get there and less than 15 to get back.

gifdy

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248 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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My daughter was there at the time. She went into the water with her friends but said it was far too cold and they didn't stay in long. She didn't see the actual incident happen but saw all the people in trouble in the water, and the lifeguards pulling them into the beach and resuscitating them. They were shouting at people to get out the water, but were being ignored and people still going in. Sounds a right mess.

Andy 308GTB

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228 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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Tankrizzo said:
The only thing I can think is that some bloke was encouraging a bunch of kids to jump off the pier into water that was too shallow, all at the same time.
I think this can be the only explanation. As there are people with significant injuries yet no vessel was involved.