Illegal Streamers jailed

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fourstardan

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4,882 posts

150 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65697595

Quite the profit they were reeling in!


TonyRPH

13,119 posts

174 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Whilst I disagree with 'theft' of content like this, at the same time I think that the blackout on screening of matches is just wrong.

My O/H is an avid supporter and she often seeks out streams so she can watch her favourite team.

I think it's unfair to deny loyal supporters who can't always make it to a match in person an opportunity to watch the match on TV.

I also appreciate that it's impossible to screen every game, every time though.

At the end of the day, it's just greedy profiteering by what is already a very wealthy industry.

pork911

7,365 posts

189 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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TonyRPH said:
Whilst I disagree with 'theft' of content like this, at the same time I think that the blackout on screening of matches is just wrong.

My O/H is an avid supporter and she often seeks out streams so she can watch her favourite team.

I think it's unfair to deny loyal supporters who can't always make it to a match in person an opportunity to watch the match on TV.

I also appreciate that it's impossible to screen every game, every time though.

At the end of the day, it's just greedy profiteering by what is already a very wealthy industry.
How do you earn a living?
Can I have some of what you do for free (but without asking)?
Haven't you already got enough?

TonyRPH

13,119 posts

174 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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pork911 said:
How do you earn a living?
Can I have some of what you do for free (but without asking)?
Haven't you already got enough?
I did say I disagree with the theft of the content - however some matches could be screened on the main stream TV channels (supported by advertising of course), however the FA clearly find it's far more lucrative to give screening rights to various subscription services (NOTE: not just one but several streaming services - each screening different matches).

So, to watch one match you might have to sign up to BT Sport, to watch another you'll need to sign up to Sky Sports and so on.

It's just a money making racket.


pork911

7,365 posts

189 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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TonyRPH said:
It's just a money making racket.
I wasn't aware it was a charitable endeavour.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

52 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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The sums of money involved are colossal, in the billions paying for rights. Not for any other reason that there is competition for bidding, not because the sport is generally worth this, like anything it is worth what someone is willing to pay, and it is now billions. And they pass it on to you the consumer without really asking if you wanted it.

I know this is not right but I have no issue watching sports for free that did not ask you to pay for them, they told you and then said if you want to watch now, you must pay. there is no alternative. But we will still throw advertising at you, we will fill every half time with 10 minutes of adverts, mainly betting, so we can justify the expense and have no analysis. This is why i choose to not pay. I do not watch football but other sports I will often watch on streams.

I know sport has grown into this, but it took most sport a very long time to follow the SKY formula, and now nearly every elite sport other than the very special events are behind paywalls, boxing, UFC pretty much ONLY exist behind them or PPV.

And it has only grown because people are wiling to roll over and pay, if we all stopped some sports would die so far down the road are they, but some would endeavor to go free to air again, national tv companies COULD afford to bid again, unlike now.

This model relies on people bending over backwards paying, so it is only to be expected that some will choose not to and find easier ways of watching without paying.


Catastrophic Poo

5,063 posts

192 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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pork911 said:
TonyRPH said:
It's just a money making racket.
I wasn't aware it was a charitable endeavour.
911 you have been very grumpy for a while across any thread you touch.

Is all well?

Digger

15,108 posts

197 months

Tuesday 30th May 2023
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Catastrophic Poo said:
pork911 said:
TonyRPH said:
It's just a money making racket.
I wasn't aware it was a charitable endeavour.
911 you have been very grumpy for a while across any thread you touch.

Is all well?
There is nothing grumpy about this specific post. His reply is succinct & to the point. We may not like how things have turned out as regards broadcasting of certain major sports, but unfortunately there is money to be made which disadvantages the average sports lover.

OutInTheShed

8,911 posts

32 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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Digger said:
There is nothing grumpy about this specific post. His reply is succinct & to the point. We may not like how things have turned out as regards broadcasting of certain major sports, but unfortunately there is money to be made which disadvantages the average sports lover.
If you don't like the big money being made out of pro sports broadcasting, go and watch some amateurs in the park?

WonkeyDonkey

2,398 posts

109 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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11 years in jail is a ridiculous amount of time in jail for a pretty much victimless crime. You can get less time in jail for distribution of dangerous weapons.

Oliver Hardy

2,983 posts

80 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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The whole sports Tv business is a con, sometimes it is on Sky, sometimes on BT Sport, then there is Amazon occasionally each demanding payment to watch it.

The sentences are harsh though, people get less time for bugger frauds carried out on pensioners and other not very well off people example, just one example

https://news.sky.com/story/scammers-who-conned-245...

These involved in PPE frauds have not only got away with prosecution but mostly get to keep the money


ChocolateFrog

27,824 posts

179 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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Drive over a family of 4 and you'd get a fraction of that sentence.

There's no corporate interests in that though.

Dingu

4,212 posts

36 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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Oliver Hardy said:
The whole sports Tv business is a con, sometimes it is on Sky, sometimes on BT Sport, then there is Amazon occasionally each demanding payment to watch it.

The sentences are harsh though, people get less time for bugger frauds carried out on pensioners and other not very well off people example, just one example

https://news.sky.com/story/scammers-who-conned-245...

These involved in PPE frauds have not only got away with prosecution but mostly get to keep the money
Why people throw around the word con as if they don’t know the meaning is beyond me.

Countdown

41,675 posts

202 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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I wonder what the overlap is between people who used this system and those who pretend they don’t need a TV licence.

It’s scrotey behaviour, no different to any other kind of fraud against a business.

anonymoususer

6,496 posts

54 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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WonkeyDonkey said:
11 years in jail is a ridiculous amount of time in jail for a pretty much victimless crime. You can get less time in jail for distribution of dangerous weapons.
I agree with this. Surprised at the sentence length

Prolex-UK

3,407 posts

214 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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anonymoususer said:
WonkeyDonkey said:
11 years in jail is a ridiculous amount of time in jail for a pretty much victimless crime. You can get less time in jail for distribution of dangerous weapons.
I agree with this. Surprised at the sentence length
My thoughts exactly.



CoolHands

19,267 posts

201 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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anonymoususer said:
WonkeyDonkey said:
11 years in jail is a ridiculous amount of time in jail for a pretty much victimless crime. You can get less time in jail for distribution of dangerous weapons.
I agree with this. Surprised at the sentence length
+1. Absolutely ridiculous and completely unjustifiable.

I’m amazed they did it from within the uk, surely if you were going to do this type of crime you’d be better off living in certain other countries while operating.

TonyRPH

13,119 posts

174 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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pork911 said:
TonyRPH said:
It's just a money making racket.
I wasn't aware it was a charitable endeavour.
I never said it was a charitable endeavour, and in fact none of my posts even alluded to it being a charitable operation.

I am simply of the opinion that football fans are being taken for a huge ride. Even season tickets are expensive, and in fact out of reach for some.

So to charge the amounts they do, to view a match on subscription TV is cynical, especially when the matches are spread across multiple subscription services instead of one service hosting all matches, and hence a single subscription payment.

  • I'm not a football fan myself, although I do occasionally watch the world cup matches.

hairykrishna

13,477 posts

209 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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11 years is absurd. He would have been better off selling crack.

TheLurker

1,408 posts

202 months

Wednesday 31st May 2023
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Catastrophic Poo said:
pork911 said:
TonyRPH said:
It's just a money making racket.
I wasn't aware it was a charitable endeavour.
911 you have been very grumpy for a while across any thread you touch.

Is all well?
He does have a good point though.