Braverman and the Ministerial Code, Again
Discussion
abzmike said:
The Daily Mail said:
The Times reported that the home secretary was unaware that requests were made on her behalf.
Curious line if she's supposed to have asked for such requests.I don't see too much wrong with asking the question as to whether a course for an individual is an option, but I'm not sure why it would have been asked of civil servants rather than an admin assistant, unless that's what the civil service provide an HS. Sounds odd.
The knives are out for her so I'm sure if it's not this it'll be the next thing.
Seventy said:
768 said:
The knives are out for her so I'm sure if it's not this it'll be the next thing.
Good. Hopefully not too long. So I really do wonder how she got in and why on earth she is still there.
But I agree that she is at most 2 bad headlines away from the chop.
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hstewie said:
The headline bears little relation to the story.hstewie said:She asked civil servants to help keep her course attendance quiet.
768 said:
Curious line if she's supposed to have asked for such requests.
I don't see too much wrong with asking the question as to whether a course for an individual is an option, but I'm not sure why it would have been asked of civil servants rather than an admin assistant, unless that's what the civil service provide an HS. Sounds odd.
The knives are out for her so I'm sure if it's not this it'll be the next thing.
Try asking if you could have a private course if/when you get offered a course I don't see too much wrong with asking the question as to whether a course for an individual is an option, but I'm not sure why it would have been asked of civil servants rather than an admin assistant, unless that's what the civil service provide an HS. Sounds odd.
The knives are out for her so I'm sure if it's not this it'll be the next thing.
It's just another dumb arsed move and utterly pointless. Take the course. Getting outed in the media for a bit of speeding is significantly better than getting outed for trying to abuse your influence.
She does not seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Murph7355 said:
Try asking if you could have a private course if/when you get offered a course
It's just another dumb arsed move and utterly pointless. Take the course. Getting outed in the media for a bit of speeding is significantly better than getting outed for trying to abuse your influence.
She does not seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Agreed, although I'd have said take the points.It's just another dumb arsed move and utterly pointless. Take the course. Getting outed in the media for a bit of speeding is significantly better than getting outed for trying to abuse your influence.
She does not seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer.
(FWIW I've been offered it twice, the first time I asked stupid questions by mail exactly like that until 6 months passed and the greedy buggers got nothing. Second time I paid the tax, which was cheaper than a day off work anyway and meant I wasn't funding that industry. But I'm not an MP).
monthou said:
bhstewie said:
The headline bears little relation to the story.hstewie said:She asked civil servants to help keep her course attendance quiet.
BBC said:
The home secretary was caught speeding while attorney general last summer, and faced three points on her licence and a fine, or a course as part of a group.
She tried to arrange a one-on-one course through civil servants and her adviser
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65659053She tried to arrange a one-on-one course through civil servants and her adviser
bhstewie said:
Braverman breaks code of silence on immigration policy and gets thrown under the bus.hstewie said:I want shot of this lot as much as anyone else but if you can't see the connection here I have a bridge in London to sell you .
monthou said:
bhstewie said:
The headline bears little relation to the story.hstewie said:She asked civil servants to help keep her course attendance quiet.
Shall we go with this one?
Home Secretary Suella Braverman 'asked civil servants to help her cover up speeding ticket': Mandarins 'refused requests to get her a private speed awareness course so she could dodge public shame' - as Labour accuse her of ministerial code breach
Carl_Manchester said:
Braverman breaks code of silence on immigration policy and gets thrown under the bus.
I want shot of this lot as much as anyone else but if you can't see the connection here I have a bridge in London to sell you .
One of those not particularly damaging stories kept in storage to be used at an opportune moment. In this case kept in storage for around a year and then released with headlines almost immediately contradicted by the article below. I want shot of this lot as much as anyone else but if you can't see the connection here I have a bridge in London to sell you .
The only question is whether it was civil servants or Conservative Head Office.
JagLover said:
One of those not particularly damaging stories kept in storage to be used at an opportune moment. In this case kept in storage for around a year and then released with headlines almost immediately contradicted by the article below.
The only question is whether it was civil servants or Conservative Head Office.
From the wording in The Times article, it seems like a civil servant/s.The only question is whether it was civil servants or Conservative Head Office.
Asking civil servants to assist with this matter was clearly a blunder. Suggests an arrogant and self-important attitude. And politically naive - did she really think, even if a private course was arranged, that it would be kept secret? Or cost less than the rise in her insurance premium if she took the points instead, which seemed to be her initial concern.
But these type of tactical errors are par for the course, as evidenced by her previous decision making. There are too many government ministers who seem to struggle thinking two or three steps ahead and so let their opponents score free hits.
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