Lindsay Hoyle

[ChevronB19]

Best speaker since Betty Boothroyd?

(For the avoidance of doubt, I would post this no matter what affiliation the MP in question belongs to)

https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2023/05/11/the-governmen...

[Rivenink]

You have to be joking right?

He's a glorified doormat in a black robe.

[ChevronB19]

Rivenink said:

You have to be joking right?

He's a glorified doormat in a black robe.

Nope, not joking.

[James6112]

Preferred John Berkow myself!

[JagLover]

ChevronB19 said:

Best speaker since Betty Boothroyd?

(For the avoidance of doubt, I would post this no matter what affiliation the MP in question belongs to)

https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2023/05/11/the-governmen...

Yes I would agree.

Not exactly strong competition since Betty mind.

[Countdown]

I think he's ok but I'm sure there have been far worse transgressors than Kemi. Why has he not been equally forceful with them?

[Fluid]

Rivenink said:

You have to be joking right?

He's a glorified doormat in a black robe.

Add some context then.

[Rumblestripe]

Fluid said:

Rivenink said:

You have to be joking right?

He's a glorified doormat in a black robe.

Add some context then.

Well he consistently allowed Johnson to lie and mislead parliament without even the merest hint of reproach.

Utterly useless.

[Vanden Saab]

Countdown said:

I think he's ok but I'm sure there have been far worse transgressors than Kemi. Why has he not been equally forceful with them?

Shouting and stabbing with his finger and telling them off with no other reasoning for the outburst. Nailed on case of bullying I would suggest...

[bitchstewie]

Vanden Saab said:

Shouting and stabbing with his finger and telling them off with no other reasoning for the outburst. Nailed on case of bullying I would suggest...

Somehow that sort of behaviour passes for normal and acceptable for Parliament.

That place really does need dragging into the 21st century.

[pequod]

I like Lindsay Hoyle's style of Speaker, but I do believe the whole institution from the Monarchy downwards, needs a re-think how we are going about this in the 21st Century.

And I'm old!

[ATG]

Vanden Saab said:

Countdown said:

I think he's ok but I'm sure there have been far worse transgressors than Kemi. Why has he not been equally forceful with them?

Shouting and stabbing with his finger and telling them off with no other reasoning for the outburst. Nailed on case of bullying I would suggest...

Only if you don't understand what bullying is.

[Vanden Saab]

ATG said:

Vanden Saab said:

Countdown said:

I think he's ok but I'm sure there have been far worse transgressors than Kemi. Why has he not been equally forceful with them?

Shouting and stabbing with his finger and telling them off with no other reasoning for the outburst. Nailed on case of bullying I would suggest...

Only if you don't understand what bullying is.

report said:

Raab’s fit of frustration when he questioned whether officials were breaching the ministerial code constituted “an abuse or misuse of power” in a way that undermined and humiliated them

Seems pretty clear cut...or is it once again 'different'

[ATG]

Vanden Saab said:

ATG said:

Vanden Saab said:

Countdown said:

I think he's ok but I'm sure there have been far worse transgressors than Kemi. Why has he not been equally forceful with them?

Shouting and stabbing with his finger and telling them off with no other reasoning for the outburst. Nailed on case of bullying I would suggest...

Only if you don't understand what bullying is.

report said:

Raab’s fit of frustration when he questioned whether officials were breaching the ministerial code constituted “an abuse or misuse of power” in a way that undermined and humiliated them

Seems pretty clear cut...or is it once again 'different'

what's the power relationship in the two cases?

[andyA700]

Vanden Saab said:

Countdown said:

I think he's ok but I'm sure there have been far worse transgressors than Kemi. Why has he not been equally forceful with them?

Shouting and stabbing with his finger and telling them off with no other reasoning for the outburst. Nailed on case of bullying I would suggest...

Listening to Kemi Badenoch, I think she came out of that with far more restraint and credibility. I wonder if he only shouts and gesticulates at women?

[Willhire89]

andyA700 said:

Listening to Kemi Badenoch, I think she came out of that with far more restraint and credibility. I wonder if he only shouts and gesticulates at women?

Badenoch has the same level of credibility as she has respect for the HoC and her constituents of which I am one - zero

She couldn't put a pin in a map and locate Uttlesford if she tried

[loafer123]

James6112 said:

Preferred John Berkow myself!

I believe that is the first time that phrase has ever been used.

[Mrr T]

Willhire89 said:

andyA700 said:

Listening to Kemi Badenoch, I think she came out of that with far more restraint and credibility. I wonder if he only shouts and gesticulates at women?

Badenoch has the same level of credibility as she has respect for the HoC and her constituents of which I am one - zero

She couldn't put a pin in a map and locate Uttlesford if she tried

I am sure many would have that problem. I only know because like you I live in it. It really is a ridiculous constituece.

[andy_s]

James6112 said:

Preferred John Berkow myself!

[Vanden Saab]

ATG said:

Vanden Saab said:

ATG said:

Vanden Saab said:

Countdown said:

I think he's ok but I'm sure there have been far worse transgressors than Kemi. Why has he not been equally forceful with them?

Shouting and stabbing with his finger and telling them off with no other reasoning for the outburst. Nailed on case of bullying I would suggest...

Only if you don't understand what bullying is.

report said:

Raab’s fit of frustration when he questioned whether officials were breaching the ministerial code constituted “an abuse or misuse of power” in a way that undermined and humiliated them

Seems pretty clear cut...or is it once again 'different'

what's the power relationship in the two cases?

The same...