Peaceful Protesting

[pequod]

Has the day of peaceful protesting, holding up a banner to make your point, a thing of the past?

[ScotHill]

No.

[pequod]

Good.

[bigpriest]

It still happens in most city centres every week. Just that now you wear masks and have flat screen displays as well as banners.

[Gweeds]

[Vanden Saab]

Not at all, but it seems the days of a few professional agitators being able to fk up other peoples lives is coming to an end.

[surveyor]

Vanden Saab said:

Not at all, but it seems the days of a few professional agitators being able to fk up other peoples lives is coming to an end.

This. Today's protests are not peaceful. They are aimed at disrupting other people's lives and events.

I thought the Police action this weekend was a masterpiece. I assume that someone at a senior level told them to just sort it and ignore the moans...

[pequod]

Non violent protesting can still send a message...

[anonymous-user]

The problem is the recent laws passed that now allow the police to arrest people holding a blank piece of paper apply to you and me as much as it applies to just stop oil or extinction rebellion protesters.

So when you or I want to join a protest against something seemingly small and superficial like the closure of a kids day care centre that has an impact on our lives, we too can be arrested just by holding a sign. So we don’t do it because we’d rather not have a conviction on our CV…

We should have a right to protest but the government have taken it away.

[Gweeds]

Btw the Met have today said they regret the arrests.

This is what happens when governments pass poor laws.

[pequod]

pablo said:

The problem is the recent laws passed that now allow the police to arrest people holding a blank piece of paper apply to you and me as much as it applies to just stop oil or extinction rebellion protesters.

So when you or I want to join a protest against something seemingly small and superficial like the closure of a kids day care centre that has an impact on our lives, we too can be arrested just by holding a sign. So we don’t do it because we’d rather not have a conviction on our CV…

We should have a right to protest but the government have taken it away.

I have never felt the need to hold a sign to protest against anything. I prefer to use other, lawful means, to register my protest directly to the people who may be in a position to do something about it! Old fashioned, I know, but it works for me whether or not I make a difference?

[230TE]

pablo said:

The problem is the recent laws passed that now allow the police to arrest people holding a blank piece of paper apply to you and me as much as it applies to just stop oil or extinction rebellion protesters.

So when you or I want to join a protest against something seemingly small and superficial like the closure of a kids day care centre that has an impact on our lives, we too can be arrested just by holding a sign. So we don’t do it because we’d rather not have a conviction on our CV…

We should have a right to protest but the government have taken it away.

I'm curious now. What is this new law which would allow me to be arrested purely for holding up a sign? The Signs (Holding Up) (Prohibition) Act 2023 seems to have passed me by.

[Gweeds]

pequod said:

I have never felt the need to hold a sign to protest against anything. I prefer to use other, lawful means, to register my protest directly to the people who may be in a position to do something about it! Old fashioned, I know, but it works for me whether or not I make a difference?

You imply that holding a sign is unlawful there.

And quite frankly if we’re now discussing holding up signs as being a problem we really are in trouble.

[pequod]

Gweeds said:

pequod said:

I have never felt the need to hold a sign to protest against anything. I prefer to use other, lawful means, to register my protest directly to the people who may be in a position to do something about it! Old fashioned, I know, but it works for me whether or not I make a difference?

You imply that holding a sign is unlawful there.

And quite frankly if we’re now discussing holding up signs as being a problem we really are in trouble.

No, I'm not. I'm simply stating my preference to making a protest.

[Gweeds]

pequod said:

No, I'm not. I'm simply stating my preference to making a protest.

I prefer to use other, lawful means’ read like their means weren’t lawful.

But fair dos.

[Jasey_]

pablo said:

The problem is the recent laws passed that now allow the police to arrest people holding a blank piece of paper apply to you and me as much as it applies to just stop oil or extinction rebellion protesters.

So when you or I want to join a protest against something seemingly small and superficial like the closure of a kids day care centre that has an impact on our lives, we too can be arrested just by holding a sign. So we don’t do it because we’d rather not have a conviction on our CV…

We should have a right to protest but the government have taken it away.

You have the right to protest as much as you like.

You have less rights to disrupt others with your protest.

What is disappointing is these rules will unlikely be used for us mere mortals.

[230TE]

Gweeds said:

You imply that holding a sign is unlawful there.

And quite frankly if we’re now discussing holding up signs as being a problem we really are in trouble frothing.

FTFY. It's getting like Twitter in here. That is definitely not a good thing.

[pequod]

230TE said:

Gweeds said:

You imply that holding a sign is unlawful there.

And quite frankly if we’re now discussing holding up signs as being a problem we really are in trouble frothing.

FTFY. It's getting like Twitter in here. That is definitely not a good thing.

In fairness, Gweeds misinterpreted my post as a protest against holding up a blank piece of paper, in protest against, well, anything which you object to really!

[marksx]

pequod said:

Gweeds said:

pequod said:

I have never felt the need to hold a sign to protest against anything. I prefer to use other, lawful means, to register my protest directly to the people who may be in a position to do something about it! Old fashioned, I know, but it works for me whether or not I make a difference?

You imply that holding a sign is unlawful there.

And quite frankly if we’re now discussing holding up signs as being a problem we really are in trouble.

No, I'm not. I'm simply stating my preference to making a protest.

The recent arrests were before a sign was even held up. They were stopped in a car.

[Terminator X]

Will be interesting to see how the rozzers deal with their new powers. People glueing themselves to the road then good get rid of them, a true peaceful protest though then they should hopefully still allow it.

TX.