Precautionary arrests

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Oliver Hardy

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2,983 posts

80 months

Saturday 6th May 2023
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Think there is a thread on this already but can't find it so....

Seems the Met police have been arresting people just in case

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/police-arrest-rep...




pork911

7,365 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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They made clear their attitude to entirely legal behaviour


https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/16537457107...

abzmike

9,132 posts

112 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Hopefully policing returns to a semblance of normality tomorrow. If not we are in real trouble.

skwdenyer

17,824 posts

246 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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pork911 said:
They made clear their attitude to entirely legal behaviour


https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/16537457107...
Important to preserve and celebrate British values...

hidetheelephants

27,406 posts

199 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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fking around and finding out on Coronation Day; it's a learning experience, albeit a worthless one unless you're planning on making a nuisance of yourself in a decade or however long it takes for Wills to get the nod.

Andeh1

7,173 posts

212 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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I don't see it as being any different to me spouting off in the local, that I'm going have a drink then go and rob the local bookies.... Then being surprised as I'm arrested walking up to a bookies.

If the police sit there, watch and wait whilst I go in, beat up a few people and grab the loot and then get arrested on the way out.... They'd be outrage.

Intelligence lead policing




lrdisco

1,524 posts

93 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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We as a country are no better than Russia doing this sort of crap.
A sad day to be British.

Sixsixtysix

2,745 posts

172 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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lrdisco said:
We as a country are no better than Russia doing this sort of crap.
A sad day to be British.
Britain is the same as Russia? Jesus Christ have you been eating the tin foil on your head? rolleyes

Carl_Manchester

12,967 posts

268 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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lrdisco said:
We as a country are no better than Russia doing this sort of crap.
A sad day to be British.
they were out to spoil a nice day for everyone else by acting like Leeds fans that had bought home tickets for an away match.


Piginapoke

4,958 posts

191 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Sixsixtysix said:
lrdisco said:
We as a country are no better than Russia doing this sort of crap.
A sad day to be British.
Britain is the same as Russia? Jesus Christ have you been eating the tin foil on your head? rolleyes
No we are not the same as Russia, but it was worrying to see. The Police arresting peaceful protesters should worry us all.

tighnamara

2,257 posts

159 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Piginapoke said:
No we are not the same as Russia, but it was worrying to see. The Police arresting peaceful protesters should worry us all.
No it shouldn’t, I am one of “us all”, can you tell me what I have to worry about……

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

114 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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hidetheelephants said:
fking around and finding out on Coronation Day; it's a learning experience, albeit a worthless one unless you're planning on making a nuisance of yourself in a decade or however long it takes for Wills to get the nod.
How exactly is cooperating with police to hold a legally organised protest, then getting arrested on the day fking around and finding out?

If anything it’s the met that are fking around and the finding out isn’t going to be fun for anyone.

NerveAgent

3,507 posts

226 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Worrying behaviour by the Met. Obviously the bootlickers will cheer it on.

I guess the good thing is that this has got more airtime than the actual protests.

Edited by NerveAgent on Sunday 7th May 08:05

Stuart70

3,985 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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tighnamara said:
Piginapoke said:
No we are not the same as Russia, but it was worrying to see. The Police arresting peaceful protesters should worry us all.
No it shouldn’t, I am one of “us all”, can you tell me what I have to worry about……
If at any time you hold a minority (or majority, but not currently accepted) view, you need to worry about the removal of the right to express it.

See also: race, gender, sexuality, self determination, religion etc.

Does that help?

tighnamara

2,257 posts

159 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Stuart70 said:
If at any time you hold a minority (or majority, but not currently accepted) view, you need to worry about the removal of the right to express it.

See also: race, gender, sexuality, self determination, religion etc.

Does that help?
Not really….. as I don’t see it happening in the above scenarios, surely a peaceful protest isn’t in amongst the thousands there yesterday to enjoy the day.

We all have different views and I am no royalist……..


230TE

2,506 posts

192 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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XR and their various spawn have well and truly pissed in the swimming pool with their open contempt for the law and their determination to make life miserable for as many people as possible in pursuit of their cause. This is the end result. The anti-monarchist protestors look mostly harmless to me, but if JSO can infiltrate a racecourse disguised as racegoers, then it wouldn't surprise me at all if they had tried to hijack the anti-royal demo and turn it into something else. What were the police supposed to do, wait to see if they superglued themselves to the Mall and got beaten to death by enraged royalists?

People who say "it could be you next" have a very good point. I've experienced heavy handed Met demo policing for myself and it isn't nice. But a line has to be drawn somewhere otherwise we will continue to have tiny protest groups like the JSO lot bringing the country to a halt and ruining stuff for everyone whenever they feel like it. The police are in an almost impossible situation here. In the end the protest still went ahead - it was on TV and everything - but without any organisers issuing orders behind the scenes as they were all sitting in police vans minus their phones. I can see the rationale behind policing it that way.

bitchstewie

54,551 posts

216 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Something I just posted on another thread as I hadn't spotted this one had been started.

If there was a public safety issue or criminality then of course the Police should deal with it.

No problem with that whatsoever.

But take at face value some of the reports of arrests seem to be based off little more than having placards.

Either you support peaceful protest or you don't.

Then there are reports like this Police 'arrested volunteers handing out rape alarms' over coronation disruption concerns

peterperkins

3,201 posts

248 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Perfectly reasonable Police actions as far as I can see.

Known individuals planning disruption at massive once in a lifetime public event. Check.
Some 'apparently' located with items to lock on etc. Check
Hundreds of thousands of people in attendance to enjoy event. Check
Massive repercussions and criticism for Police if event gets disrupted. Check

Offences likely prevented by arrest including Public Nuisance, Breach of the peace.
Assault (Protesters getting a good kicking from people who's enjoyment has been spoilt.)

No different to the Just Stop Oil M25 blockers.
Massively Inconveniencing, costing £££££ and annoying thousands of people going about their business is simply not acceptable.
I hope the police start dealing with them in the same robust manner.

Caddyshack

11,452 posts

212 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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There were big problems in France recently. Peaceful protests often turn in to much more than that. We had many world leaders fly in for one of the most important days to the monarchy. I suspect we a GB ltd needed to put on a good show and if intel suggested that it could become bigger then they probably acted accordingly.


Sometimes a ‘peaceful’ protest becomes gluing yourself to the road etc and just this one day it needed to be nipped in the bud, I suspect.

Stuart70

3,985 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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tighnamara said:
Stuart70 said:
If at any time you hold a minority (or majority, but not currently accepted) view, you need to worry about the removal of the right to express it.

See also: race, gender, sexuality, self determination, religion etc.

Does that help?
Not really….. as I don’t see it happening in the above scenarios, surely a peaceful protest isn’t in amongst the thousands there yesterday to enjoy the day.

We all have different views and I am no royalist……..
You did not see people protesting their anti monarchy views?

Or you did not see pre-emotive arrests as a restriction on the exercising of the right to peacefully protest?

We may have both different views and different interpretations of events, but that is ok with me. smile