Vapes to be banned in Australia
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Has to be a step forward doesn't it. Here next I hope.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-02/vapes-recre...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-02/vapes-recre...
Upinflames said:
Has to be a step forward doesn't it. Here next I hope.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-02/vapes-recre...
No harm in banning the illegal dangerous vapes but ultimately those using vapes will likely to return to smoking cigarettes. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-02/vapes-recre...
Oxford University said:
Dr Jamie Hartmann-Boyce, Associate Professor at Oxford's Nuffield Department of Primary Care Health Sciences, Editor of the Cochrane Tobacco Addiction Group, and an author of the new publication, said: 'Electronic cigarettes have generated a lot of misunderstanding in both the public health community and the popular press since their introduction over a decade ago. These misunderstandings discourage some people from using e-cigarettes as a stop smoking tool. Fortunately, more and more evidence is emerging and provides further clarity. With support from Cancer Research UK, we search for new evidence every month as part of a living systematic review. We identify and combine the strongest evidence from the most reliable scientific studies currently available.
'For the first time, this has given us high-certainty evidence that e-cigarettes are even more effective at helping people to quit smoking than traditional nicotine replacement therapies, like patches or gums.'
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2022-11-17-e-cigarettes-are-more-effective-nicotine-replacement-therapy-helping-smokers-quit'For the first time, this has given us high-certainty evidence that e-cigarettes are even more effective at helping people to quit smoking than traditional nicotine replacement therapies, like patches or gums.'
Got to be a backward step doesn't it?
ben5575 said:
Oxford University said:
Dr Jamie Hartmann-Boyce, Associate Professor at Oxford's Nuffield Department of Primary Care Health Sciences, Editor of the Cochrane Tobacco Addiction Group, and an author of the new publication, said: 'Electronic cigarettes have generated a lot of misunderstanding in both the public health community and the popular press since their introduction over a decade ago. These misunderstandings discourage some people from using e-cigarettes as a stop smoking tool. Fortunately, more and more evidence is emerging and provides further clarity. With support from Cancer Research UK, we search for new evidence every month as part of a living systematic review. We identify and combine the strongest evidence from the most reliable scientific studies currently available.
'For the first time, this has given us high-certainty evidence that e-cigarettes are even more effective at helping people to quit smoking than traditional nicotine replacement therapies, like patches or gums.'
https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2022-11-17-e-cigarettes-are-more-effective-nicotine-replacement-therapy-helping-smokers-quit'For the first time, this has given us high-certainty evidence that e-cigarettes are even more effective at helping people to quit smoking than traditional nicotine replacement therapies, like patches or gums.'
Got to be a backward step doesn't it?
GT3Manthey said:
Upinflames said:
Has to be a step forward doesn't it. Here next I hope.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-02/vapes-recre...
No harm in banning the illegal dangerous vapes but ultimately those using vapes will likely to return to smoking cigarettes. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-02/vapes-recre...
I would be less cynical about this action if the Australian government banned cigarettes or made them prescription only too.
Upinflames said:
Has to be a step forward doesn't it. Here next I hope.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-02/vapes-recre...
Why?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-02/vapes-recre...
egomeister said:
Exactly, it's a retrograde step which disincentives one of the best pathways to give up smoking.
They’re still going to be available for that purpose. Just go to your doctor and get a prescription. It’s worth it given that cigarettes are close to £1 each in Oz.This ban is aimed at stopping kids from going from nothing to vaping. That seems like a noble plan but I’m sure it will have flaws.
I can see an argument for getting rid of disposables, especially as I'm told they are all the highest nicotine content. That and I believe the number causing fires as they're crushed at a waste disposal centre of worrying.
As a concept I agree with vaping.
Australia used to be a cool place full of cool people. Now it's run by idiots. They'll be banned as they miss the tax revenue.
As a concept I agree with vaping.
Australia used to be a cool place full of cool people. Now it's run by idiots. They'll be banned as they miss the tax revenue.
GT3Manthey said:
Upinflames said:
Has to be a step forward doesn't it. Here next I hope.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-02/vapes-recre...
No harm in banning the illegal dangerous vapes but ultimately those using vapes will likely to return to smoking cigarettes. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-02/vapes-recre...
djc206 said:
egomeister said:
Exactly, it's a retrograde step which disincentives one of the best pathways to give up smoking.
They’re still going to be available for that purpose. Just go to your doctor and get a prescription. It’s worth it given that cigarettes are close to £1 each in Oz.This ban is aimed at stopping kids from going from nothing to vaping. That seems like a noble plan but I’m sure it will have flaws.
I get that discouraging kids from taking it up is important, and there's good arguments to ban disposables but this kind of regulation feels misguided - nanny state at its best.
Vaping to stop smoking is a good thing but there's a whole generation of youth vaping that weren't smokers because....well I guess because it's the trendy thing to do with your peers.
Vaping isn't healthy though is it and in years to come I can foresee an epidemic of disease caused by vaping.
Does anyone know what chemicals they're inhaling? I doubt it
Vaping isn't healthy though is it and in years to come I can foresee an epidemic of disease caused by vaping.
Does anyone know what chemicals they're inhaling? I doubt it
egomeister said:
You are still putting barriers up to people moving from a high risk product to a much less risky one rather than encouraging it.
I get that discouraging kids from taking it up is important, and there's good arguments to ban disposables but this kind of regulation feels misguided - nanny state at its best.
Yeah I can see both sides of the argument. I get that discouraging kids from taking it up is important, and there's good arguments to ban disposables but this kind of regulation feels misguided - nanny state at its best.
Australia is the original nanny state so this is consistent with their approach to everything else. For a nation that prides itself on being tough they do seem to like to be sheltered from risk.
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