Cumbrian River rewilded / "rewiggled".

Cumbrian River rewilded / "rewiggled".

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glazbagun

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14,433 posts

203 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-653...

Thinking of the periodic "why are the floods so bad" / "dredge the rivers!" threads we get every other winter I thought this was interesting.

£200K for a KM of river, but it slowed the flow and increased the length by 180M. If we did this to the tributaries of our problem rivers surely it could only reduce the flash flooding issues we sometimes get? Added bonus is more biodiversity, of course. Draw back is possible reduction in farmland, but that may also mean less run-off into rivers if they're further away.

Would cost a lot though. Could it be funded by increasing utility company fines every time they dump sewage into our waters?

hidetheelephants

27,409 posts

199 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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No need for all that money for a relatively small river, beavers will do it for free.

Evanivitch

21,702 posts

128 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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It's a good example of how much we've truly f'd the environment up. Just look at all the drainage ditches on farmland and uplands and then wonder why we see such heavy down stream flooding.

Or wonder why we have silting issues in rivers when all we do is break up the soil and let it wash away.

Nice to see something that worked. It's no way it'll catch on, certainly not near towns where so many rivers are now just glorified concrete storm drains.

hidetheelephants said:
No need for all that money for a relatively small river, beavers will do it for free.
Beavers can't do much in fast flowing water.

PositronicRay

27,422 posts

189 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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If you're invested in this sort of stuff, Riverwoods (a scottish film)is worth a watch. It gets a bit preachy but illustrates some of the problems.


https://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/riverwoo...

oyster

12,824 posts

254 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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Easy way to fund it.

A tax per square foot of non-draining surface areas on property. Directly getting one of the biggest causes of flash flooding to actually pay for it.
So those who decide to make a car park of their front garden can contribute to the damage they cause for the environment and society.

Evanivitch

21,702 posts

128 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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oyster said:
Easy way to fund it.

A tax per square foot of non-draining surface areas on property. Directly getting one of the biggest causes of flash flooding to actually pay for it.
So those who decide to make a car park of their front garden can contribute to the damage they cause for the environment and society.
There are already laws on non& permeable driveways that are completely ignored.

Evanivitch

21,702 posts

128 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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oyster said:
Easy way to fund it.

A tax per square foot of non-draining surface areas on property. Directly getting one of the biggest causes of flash flooding to actually pay for it.
So those who decide to make a car park of their front garden can contribute to the damage they cause for the environment and society.
There are already laws on non& permeable driveways that are completely ignored.

OutInTheShed

8,911 posts

32 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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Most of these initiatives tend to move the problem from one place to another.

Restricting a river will help downstream of that point, but may increase flooding upstream of that point.

Rivers in the UK have been messed with for centuries, people putting in watermills in medieval times, weirs and locks for navigation, land drainage. Reservoirs.

I'd be reluctant to live too near a lot of rivers, you run the risk of some anorak messing with it to your detriment.

Also, the weather does seem to be getting more violent or unpredictable. Coupled with higher sea levels, we have a lot of problems ahead.

Castrol for a knave

5,203 posts

97 months

Wednesday 26th April 2023
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Then you get some prick like this playing at being a poundshop hydrologist...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-wor...