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Bo_apex

Original Poster:

2,864 posts

224 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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given how frequently the IMF gets their UK forecasts wrong, should they be disregarded ?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/02/01/ho...

Rivenink

3,936 posts

112 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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Who should do the disregarding?

XCP

17,123 posts

234 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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Rivenink said:
Who should do the disregarding?
Anyone who doesn't subscribe to the Telegraph?

Bo_apex

Original Poster:

2,864 posts

224 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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XCP said:
Rivenink said:
Who should do the disregarding?
Anyone who doesn't subscribe to the Telegraph?
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and Bloomberg

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-13...

anonymous-user

60 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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They seem to have an agenda against the U.K. post BREXIT? Nearly always wrong with their forecasts

Rivenink

3,936 posts

112 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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86 said:
They seem to have an agenda against the U.K. post BREXIT? Nearly always wrong with their forecasts
Do they? Are they?

Either their forecasts are regarded by people with power to make changes that affect the actual outcomes that make the forecasts wrong

Or nobody of import or power gives their forecast any regard anyway, and the media is just whipping frothers up into a froth for a few angerclicks.


abzmike

9,133 posts

112 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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Whoever has a position supported by a forecast welcomes it, whoever doesn't derides it.

Frik

13,547 posts

249 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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I think it's a bit rich for the Telegraph to be calling out the IMF for inaccurate forecasts. Haven't they been calling an imminent house price crash for years?

Biker 1

7,859 posts

125 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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Reminds me of Piers Corbyn's winter snow forecasts - one day he'll get it right.

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

42 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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Bo_apex said:
given how frequently the IMF gets their UK forecasts wrong, should they be disregarded ?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/02/01/ho...
It’s not a forecast it’s a wish list ,
And what else would you expect with someone as anti Brexit/U.K. as Ms Lagarde involved…

JuanCarlosFandango

8,177 posts

77 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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Economics is mostly tosh anyway at the macro level. As communists always found, the economic lives of millions of people are complicated beyond comprehension, let alone prediction or control. By the time you've filtered any attempt to do so through layers of political machinations and vested interests it deserves a thorough disregarding as a way of predicting events and deciding policy.

It is of some use in explaining what has happened and why, and that can add to an understanding of what to avoid in future if the lessons are heeded, but we're not great at that either. What politician can ignore the lofty experts telling him that his grand plan to borrow loads of money and make himself popular is a great one, or that printing money by some other name is not debasing the currency but in fact a wise and prudent way to stimulate growth. None can. None ever have. They need sooth sayers and clergy to justify their greed and stupidity and the IMF are the Vatican of our time.

S600BSB

5,960 posts

112 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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Bo_apex said:
given how frequently the IMF gets their UK forecasts wrong, should they be disregarded ?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/02/01/ho...
Safer just to disregard anything in the Telegraph.

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

42 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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S600BSB said:
Safer just to disregard anything in newspapers .
EFA !!!

Caddyshack

11,459 posts

212 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
Economics is mostly tosh anyway at the macro level. As communists always found, the economic lives of millions of people are complicated beyond comprehension, let alone prediction or control. By the time you've filtered any attempt to do so through layers of political machinations and vested interests it deserves a thorough disregarding as a way of predicting events and deciding policy.

It is of some use in explaining what has happened and why, and that can add to an understanding of what to avoid in future if the lessons are heeded, but we're not great at that either. What politician can ignore the lofty experts telling him that his grand plan to borrow loads of money and make himself popular is a great one, or that printing money by some other name is not debasing the currency but in fact a wise and prudent way to stimulate growth. None can. None ever have. They need sooth sayers and clergy to justify their greed and stupidity and the IMF are the Vatican of our time.
100% agree. I am shocked that so many people do not work it out for themselves though.

Caddyshack

11,459 posts

212 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Ivan stewart said:
S600BSB said:
Safer just to disregard anything in newspapers .
EFA !!!
This should be written on bill boards across the world!

W124Bob

1,763 posts

181 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Some of the things found in newspapers are OK

Caddyshack

11,459 posts

212 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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W124Bob said:
Some of the things found in newspapers are OK
Do any chip shops still use newspaper or is it now against some law?

Catastrophic Poo

5,069 posts

192 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
the economic lives of millions of people are complicated beyond comprehension, let alone prediction or control.
Tell that to the lunatics who appeared on the CBDC threads hehe

Oakey

27,761 posts

222 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Caddyshack said:
Do any chip shops still use newspaper or is it now against some law?
Against the law I think, the ink isn't very good for you apparently

Bo_apex

Original Poster:

2,864 posts

224 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
Economics is mostly tosh anyway at the macro level. As communists always found, the economic lives of millions of people are complicated beyond comprehension, let alone prediction or control. By the time you've filtered any attempt to do so through layers of political machinations and vested interests it deserves a thorough disregarding as a way of predicting events and deciding policy.

It is of some use in explaining what has happened and why, and that can add to an understanding of what to avoid in future if the lessons are heeded, but we're not great at that either. What politician can ignore the lofty experts telling him that his grand plan to borrow loads of money and make himself popular is a great one, or that printing money by some other name is not debasing the currency but in fact a wise and prudent way to stimulate growth. None can. None ever have. They need sooth sayers and clergy to justify their greed and stupidity and the IMF are the Vatican of our time.
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Well put