China practicing invasion of Taiwan

China practicing invasion of Taiwan

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vulture1

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12,741 posts

185 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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Forgive me if there is already a post I did search a couple of pages.

In the news China doing war games again for thr invasion of Taiwan.
Didn't the Egyptians do this constant practice so much so that they did actually invade their neighbour they all thought it was another exercise so never alerted anyone?

Bright Halo

3,199 posts

241 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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The Russians also stated they were just carrying out exercises prior to the invasion of Ukraine.

ChocolateFrog

27,833 posts

179 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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Not sure what they're waiting for. Not even the US is going to stand up to them when it will have little impact over there.

NuckyThompson

1,689 posts

174 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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I thought the yanks said they would stand up for Taiwan? I’m assuming that’s what’s being holding the Chinese back from actually doing something.

Although I think it’s coming regsrdrlsss.

philv

4,160 posts

220 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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It would have to be a force bigger than that on d Day.
Without the element of surprise.
With modern defensive weapons.
I for one would not like to be on any invading ship.

As was the case with Ukraine which the west didn't do, American should put forces in Taiwan and then pose the question 'what are you going to do about it?'.





RichFN2

3,646 posts

185 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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They watched Russia take an absolute pounding when invading Ukraine, become the most sanctioned country in the world and will probably never fully recover from this.

Plus the fact that Taiwan's army is far superior to Ukraine's and they are also heavily backed by America.

Not to say that it will never happen, but it's a war that China could very easily lose and see it's economy collapse.

Oakey

27,761 posts

222 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
Not sure what they're waiting for. Not even the US is going to stand up to them when it will have little impact over there.
Don't they produce something like 90% of the world's semi-conductors?

LimaDelta

6,895 posts

224 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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It will happen shortly after the 2024 Trump/Biden elections. While the US is lamenting the result and somewhat disordered and politically divided, PRC will take the opportunity to invade the ROC.

That's my prediction FWIW.

grumbledoak

31,767 posts

239 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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philv said:
It would have to be a force bigger than that on d Day.
Without the element of surprise.
With modern defensive weapons.
I for one would not like to be on any invading ship.

As was the case with Ukraine which the west didn't do, American should put forces in Taiwan and then pose the question 'what are you going to do about it?'.

You don't think America is trying hard enough to start WWIII already on this side of the planet?

iphonedyou

9,478 posts

163 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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grumbledoak said:
You don't think America is trying hard enough to start WWIII already on this side of the planet?
No.

philv

4,160 posts

220 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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grumbledoak said:
philv said:
It would have to be a force bigger than that on d Day.
Without the element of surprise.
With modern defensive weapons.
I for one would not like to be on any invading ship.

As was the case with Ukraine which the west didn't do, American should put forces in Taiwan and then pose the question 'what are you going to do about it?'.

You don't think America is trying hard enough to start WWIII already on this side of the planet?
America?
Hahahahahahaha

NorthDave

2,395 posts

238 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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I'm sure I read that Taiwan make all our and the USs military chips so if China did invade the US would have little choice but to step in to defend them. China holding Taiwan would render our military useless or disabled.

skeeterm5

3,593 posts

194 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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ChocolateFrog said:
Not sure what they're waiting for. Not even the US is going to stand up to them when it will have little impact over there.
Didn’t the Us recently confirm that they would come to their aid in the event of an invasion?

Countdown

41,681 posts

202 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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Invading Taiwan seems to be full of downsides and hardly any upside for China.

if they DID decide to attempt it I doubt the US would be stupid enough to get involved overtly but Taiwan won't be a pushover.

Earthdweller

14,222 posts

132 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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Bit of background here seems they are pissed off with the President going to the US and meeting the Speaker of the house so they’re rattling the sabre

https://www.reuters.com/world/china-announces-dril...

Defcon5

6,281 posts

197 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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Is the Chinese military actually up to much? Has any of there modern kit been used for anything other than posturing and parading?

The world used to think of Russia as a mighty force but that turned out to be smoke and mirrors

Sheepshanks

34,491 posts

125 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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Oakey said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Not sure what they're waiting for. Not even the US is going to stand up to them when it will have little impact over there.
Don't they produce something like 90% of the world's semi-conductors?
Well, depends on how and what you’re measuring.

The thing is, a typical electronic system has lots of chips and you can’t build it if even one is missing. So it might as well be 100%

The world would be pretty completely stuffed if Taiwan got turned off overnight.

philv

4,160 posts

220 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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As per Russian energy, we really should try and ween ourselves off Chinese production and goods.

Like it or not, China are the future potential enemy, as Russia have been for he last 70 years.

pequod

8,997 posts

144 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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philv said:
As per Russian energy, we really should try and ween ourselves off Chinese production and goods.

Like it or not, China are the future potential enemy, as Russia have been for he last 70 years.
Have you tried re-inserting the genie back in the bottle?

The 'global' economic/political ambition of previous western Governments, both here and across the pond, to offshore mass production and other services, to attempt bringing China (and others, including Russia) into the 'family business', has led us to where we are now. Ukraine should be a wake-up call to spread manufacture and delivery of products in more than one country or region, and the old adage of placing all eggs in one basket, is a proven model from time immemorial!

BikeBikeBIke

9,648 posts

121 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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Taiwan:

Is mountainous with Rivers. Ideal for defence.
Will require a vulnerable invasion fleet to assemble over months to Transport a million men over 150 miles.
Has a nuclear program and could create a nuclear bomb in a few months and a nuke in the middle of an invasion fleet would be effective.
Has a better military that Ukraine.
Has been preparing for an invasion for 45 years.

China:

Imports 80pc of its energy and food.
Has a navy that is a mix of Photoshop and obsolete kit.
Has an untested army equipped with copies of Russian kit.
Has the example of Russia's catastrophe in Ukraine.


Nothing's certain but I don't think Xi is dumb and misinformed enough to try an invasion.

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Saturday 8th April 17:55