MPs for sale. Again
Discussion
Led By Donkeys showing just how stupid and self centred many of them are. Surely Kwasi should have realised no one is ever going to hire him, and he wants 10k pcm. But doesn't know if that's £ or $. But might take £8k a day.
Stunning ineptitude.
https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1639689865238...
Stunning ineptitude.
https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1639689865238...
Guardian coverage : Top Tory MPs ask for £10,000 a day to work for fake Korean company
By my math, that's just over 11p a second, so I could hire both of them and tell them to "F
k right off and die" for under a quid? Maybe if I laboured the "riiiiiiiiiiiight" it could run to £1.20, but it still seems like a bargain.I don’t really care how much money they’re asking for - if someone wants to pay them £10k a day then go for it. What I do have an issue with is seemingly how easy it was to fabricate something to gain direct access to these politicians. They’re extremely silly for not doing their homework and looking into this ‘company’ before firing up Zoom. 
Let;s think about this for a few minutes in an adult and open manner.
Firstly I think we can all agree that this could just as easily be Labour MP's. I doubt it could extend to Lib Dems, not because they are morally better but simply because no one knows who they are anyway.
Now about the claims themselves. Superficially it looks like the MP's are at it to make money for themselves. But there is another way of looking at it. They may well be performing a service in that they are bringing to the publics attention the benefits that these things can provide.
Then there is Matt Hancock. Whether you or I like it Matt is a star now. He isn't like your normal everyday MP. He has been on primetime TV in the jungle and is very well known.
So instead of criticising these MP's we should be applauding them for being prepared to take on extra work.
Firstly I think we can all agree that this could just as easily be Labour MP's. I doubt it could extend to Lib Dems, not because they are morally better but simply because no one knows who they are anyway.
Now about the claims themselves. Superficially it looks like the MP's are at it to make money for themselves. But there is another way of looking at it. They may well be performing a service in that they are bringing to the publics attention the benefits that these things can provide.
Then there is Matt Hancock. Whether you or I like it Matt is a star now. He isn't like your normal everyday MP. He has been on primetime TV in the jungle and is very well known.
So instead of criticising these MP's we should be applauding them for being prepared to take on extra work.
anonymoususer said:
Let;s think about this for a few minutes in an adult and open manner.
Firstly I think we can all agree that this could just as easily be Labour MP's. I doubt it could extend to Lib Dems, not because they are morally better but simply because no one knows who they are anyway.
Now about the claims themselves. Superficially it looks like the MP's are at it to make money for themselves. But there is another way of looking at it. They may well be performing a service in that they are bringing to the publics attention the benefits that these things can provide.
Then there is Matt Hancock. Whether you or I like it Matt is a star now. He isn't like your normal everyday MP. He has been on primetime TV in the jungle and is very well known.
So instead of criticising these MP's we should be applauding them for being prepared to take on extra work.
One word "Corruption".Firstly I think we can all agree that this could just as easily be Labour MP's. I doubt it could extend to Lib Dems, not because they are morally better but simply because no one knows who they are anyway.
Now about the claims themselves. Superficially it looks like the MP's are at it to make money for themselves. But there is another way of looking at it. They may well be performing a service in that they are bringing to the publics attention the benefits that these things can provide.
Then there is Matt Hancock. Whether you or I like it Matt is a star now. He isn't like your normal everyday MP. He has been on primetime TV in the jungle and is very well known.
So instead of criticising these MP's we should be applauding them for being prepared to take on extra work.
ReallyReallyGood said:
What services exactly are these MPs offering for £10,000 a day?
For that sort of money it'd have to be some properly extreme kink. Main lesson from this is politicians are idiots and easily bought, though the going rates tend to be much much lower than this bunch of morons think they are.
https://twitter.com/Mr_KeithTaylor/status/16396968...
said:
I'm old enough to remember when something like this would be enough to bring down a government.
And I'm not even old
And I'm not even old
johnboy1975 said:
https://twitter.com/Mr_KeithTaylor/status/16396968...
However old he is he can’t be from the UK, back bench MPs taking on consultancy work would never bring a government down. said:
I'm old enough to remember when something like this would be enough to bring down a government.
And I'm not even old
And I'm not even old
What do these MPs actually consult on? They all appear to have advisors to hide behind when the st hits the fan, e.g. Johnson seemingly advised that he didn't break lockdown rules, so why don't these companies that want consultation cut out the middle man & hire the advisors instead??
Or am I missing something & it's all about greasing the right palms?
t hits the fan, e.g. Johnson seemingly advised that he didn't break lockdown rules, so why don't these companies that want consultation cut out the middle man & hire the advisors instead??Or am I missing something & it's all about greasing the right palms?
Biker 1 said:
What do these MPs actually consult on? They all appear to have advisors to hide behind when the st hits the fan, e.g. Johnson seemingly advised that he didn't break lockdown rules, so why don't these companies that want consultation cut out the middle man & hire the advisors instead??
Or am I missing something & it's all about greasing the right palms?
They become lobbyists for said company. They are able to approach decision-makers.t hits the fan, e.g. Johnson seemingly advised that he didn't break lockdown rules, so why don't these companies that want consultation cut out the middle man & hire the advisors instead??Or am I missing something & it's all about greasing the right palms?
Lots of people suggest it is open to corruption.
They can also give the company inside knowledge of procedures.
Lots of people suggest it is open to corruption.
Derek Smith said:
Biker 1 said:
What do these MPs actually consult on? They all appear to have advisors to hide behind when the st hits the fan, e.g. Johnson seemingly advised that he didn't break lockdown rules, so why don't these companies that want consultation cut out the middle man & hire the advisors instead??
Or am I missing something & it's all about greasing the right palms?
They become lobbyists for said company. They are able to approach decision-makers.t hits the fan, e.g. Johnson seemingly advised that he didn't break lockdown rules, so why don't these companies that want consultation cut out the middle man & hire the advisors instead??Or am I missing something & it's all about greasing the right palms?
Lots of people suggest it is open to corruption.
They can also give the company inside knowledge of procedures.
Lots of people suggest it is open to corruption.
Things we should have -
laws to stop political donations from foreign entities.
laws to stop or limit politicians from taking second jobs and an oversight committee to review appointments to companies that MP's have worked with or in sectors where they have worked (and I would suggest an outright 5 year ban). An MP's position shouldn't be seen as a stepping stone in the career ladder. (the only exception being public sector work).
There are three elements to this; one pragmatic, one regulatory and one optical.
Pragmatically, politicians who are not serving in Government can, perfectly properly, undertake paid advisory work provided certain conditions are met. Organisations will pay for such advice to gain political insight, commentary and analysis. This can either be by directly contracting with an individual or by contracting with a Govt Relations consultancy that has a particular politician on their books. Most reputable organisations will seek to avoid direct lobbying activity and using current or former politicians to secure access to Govt.
Regulatorily, both Kwartang and Hancock will be bound by ACOBA requirements on what former Govt ministers can and cannot do within two years of leaving Govt office. No reputable business or Govt Relations consultancy would ask them to - or allow them to offer to - do anything that breached ACOBA guidelines. Provided that they adhere to these requirements plus Nolan principles given that they are both sitting MPs, then they are allowed to take on advisory work.
Optically, this looks terrible and paints the Torys as a party of sleazy, unethical get-rich-quick merchants
Pragmatically, politicians who are not serving in Government can, perfectly properly, undertake paid advisory work provided certain conditions are met. Organisations will pay for such advice to gain political insight, commentary and analysis. This can either be by directly contracting with an individual or by contracting with a Govt Relations consultancy that has a particular politician on their books. Most reputable organisations will seek to avoid direct lobbying activity and using current or former politicians to secure access to Govt.
Regulatorily, both Kwartang and Hancock will be bound by ACOBA requirements on what former Govt ministers can and cannot do within two years of leaving Govt office. No reputable business or Govt Relations consultancy would ask them to - or allow them to offer to - do anything that breached ACOBA guidelines. Provided that they adhere to these requirements plus Nolan principles given that they are both sitting MPs, then they are allowed to take on advisory work.
Optically, this looks terrible and paints the Torys as a party of sleazy, unethical get-rich-quick merchants
anonymoususer said:
Let;s think about this for a few minutes in an adult and open manner.
Firstly I think we can all agree that this could just as easily be Labour MP's. I doubt it could extend to Lib Dems, not because they are morally better but simply because no one knows who they are anyway.
If you watch the video they extended the offer proportionally to MPs across all parties. Only the Tory MPs named showed enough interest to get to the video call stage. Firstly I think we can all agree that this could just as easily be Labour MP's. I doubt it could extend to Lib Dems, not because they are morally better but simply because no one knows who they are anyway.
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