Genetically modified foods act 2023

[J210]

Not seen much about this on the news. GM modified plants and animals will be in our food. Not sure this is good or bad tbh.






https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2023/6/pdfs/u...

Edited by J210 on Saturday 25th March 09:09

Edited by J210 on Saturday 25th March 09:10

[Sway]

Para 2, item C.

So no mixing horse DNA into chickens. Only things that could exist/be created naturally - this merely allows the process to happen faster.

[Randy Winkman]

With the right rules and regs I think it's a good thing, for plants anyway. It could help get the best from the space available and help make plants more disease and drought tolerant. Possibly for animals to for similar reasons. Pan Pan Pan keeps telling us about overpopulation; this could help.

[tangerine_sedge]

Sway said:

Para 2, item C.

So no mixing horse DNA into chickens. Only things that could exist/be created naturally - this merely allows the process to happen faster.

Horse size chickens or chicken sized horses - the mind boggles

I'm sure that there isn't much to be worried about in this, but expect some crazy theories to hit the 'conspiracy theory' thread in 3...2...1...

[bitchstewie]

Tracking you through the vaccine tracking you through the emergency mobile alert system whilst making you more docile and compliant with GM modified food

[M1AGM]

GM food is already in our food supply and has been for decades, don’t get what is new about this that makes it newsworthy? Are there some nuances hidden in the act?

[FourWheelDrift]

tangerine_sedge said:

Horse size chickens or chicken sized horses - the mind boggles

I'm sure that there isn't much to be worried about in this, but expect some crazy theories to hit the 'conspiracy theory' thread in 3...2...1...

3 legged chickens?

[jurbie]

bhstewie said:

Tracking you through the vaccine tracking you through the emergency mobile alert system whilst making you more docile and compliant with GM modified food

You say that but I fully expect the environmental lot to be all over this. Greenpeace has a long history of opposition to GM foods. I remember when they were busy destroying the experimental golden rice plantations in the Philippines. That was simply rice with enhanced vitamin A. But no, all GM is evil. and I doubt it will be long before the protests start and the government caves in.

[Pan Pan Pan]

Randy Winkman said:

With the right rules and regs I think it's a good thing, for plants anyway. It could help get the best from the space available and help make plants more disease and drought tolerant. Possibly for animals to for similar reasons. Pan Pan Pan keeps telling us about overpopulation; this could help.

I too believe it is a good thing. If we will insist on adding billions more resource consuming, waste producing, and CO2 emitting numbers of MAN to the planet at NET global rates above one hundred thousand per DAY as we are now doing (You know, the `very' thing the eco loons keep telling us has been, and is destroying the planet and its climate) then we will need to find new ways of feeding them.
I for one, am not keen on eating insects. We might however end up, at Soylent Green?

[pquinn]

Sounds reasonable, just applying technology to streamline the same processes people have used since forever.

[Electro1980]

tangerine_sedge said:

Sway said:

Para 2, item C.

So no mixing horse DNA into chickens. Only things that could exist/be created naturally - this merely allows the process to happen faster.

Horse size chickens or chicken sized horses - the mind boggles

I'm sure that there isn't much to be worried about in this, but expect some crazy theories to hit the 'conspiracy theory' thread in 3...2...1...

Finally, we can answer the horse sized chicken or 100 chicken sized horses fight question!

The big concern is not the “we don’t know what it will do” or “genes might jump” stuff. Those are conspiracies that have been encouraged by the companies developing the GM tech, by them address those in favour of addressing the real risks. That being the handing over of control of our food supply to a small number of large companies. The risk is that, sooner or later, GM crops will be so dominant that all farmers will be using them, and at that point the likes of monsanto, who currently make 80% of all GMO seeds, would have a monopoly on industrial scale seed production.

The likes of monsanto have been very good at controlling the discourse, both in politics and in the media, to make it look like those with concerns are all conspiracy loons and crackpots. This means that these risks have not been addressed.

[Sway]

Monsanto style GMO isn't covered by this - there's no 'natural' way to create a roundup/glyphosate resistant seed in the way they've done it.

The way this legislation is worded, every single seed currently available is 'modified' - the only difference is in how it was achieved.

Even with the "80% of GMO seeds coming from Monsanto" - after Bayer bought them, they still have a significant minority of global market share.

Just like healthcare, the US model is not one to emulate/copy in agriculture, nor is it entirely comparable.

[dudleybloke]

Next step spherical cows.

[FourWheelDrift]

dudleybloke said:

Next step spherical cows.

Untippable.

[eharding]

bhstewie said:

Tracking you through the vaccine tracking you through the emergency mobile alert system whilst making you more docile and compliant with GM modified food

To be fair, once you've polished off a Bargain Bucket full of horse-sized chicken wings and drumsticks, you're probably going to be in the mood for a nice snooze - the worry being whether or not the Emergency Alert system would be loud enough to wake you up in the event of a breakout from your local chicken farm. Despite the risk however, the prospect of enormous horse-proportioned chicken eggs and bacon rashers from pigs the size of a JCB makes me optimistic that the future of massive fat-boy fry-up breakfasts is looking very promising indeed.

[Electro1980]

Sway said:

Monsanto style GMO isn't covered by this - there's no 'natural' way to create a roundup/glyphosate resistant seed in the way they've done it.

The way this legislation is worded, every single seed currently available is 'modified' - the only difference is in how it was achieved.

Even with the "80% of GMO seeds coming from Monsanto" - after Bayer bought them, they still have a significant minority of global market share.

Just like healthcare, the US model is not one to emulate/copy in agriculture, nor is it entirely comparable.

I don’t know the details of what this is or is not allowing, only explaining why there were concerns around GMO in general in response to comments about conspiracy theories.