Charles Bronson Release

[Gecko1978]

https://news.sky.com/story/charles-bronson-parole-...

So he is having a parole hearing today my guess even at 70 he is not getting out as he has a history of violence and is likely going to be inside another 5 or more years until age makes him to frail to be a danger.

In film and interviews I always assume he has some significant mental health issues which spending 50 years in prison have made much worse.

What do others think

[Equus]

BBC are reporting some of his behaviour and comments from the open parole hearing.

He can't even manage to keep himself in check in front of the parole board.

I almost feel sorry for the poor old bugger, but he's going nowhere... far too intsitutionalised to be capable of safe release.

[ZedLeg]

I don't think he'd be much trouble if he got out at this point. He's pretty much blind iirc. He has no interest in bending to meet the parole board though so he'll probably be there until he's sick enough for compassionate release.

[soad]

Probably not going to happen. Didn’t know he changed his name, again.

[Gareth79]

He hasn't really been in the outside world since 1974, save for 69 days in 1987/88 (ending in armed robbery) and 53 days in 1992 (conspiracy to rob and possession for a sawn-off shotgun).

He violently assaulted a prison governor as recently as 2014 so I don't think he can claim that he got over his behavioural issues long ago. I suspect he'd do something like beat somebody senseless because his Tesco Clubcard wasn't being read by the checkout scanner.

Possibly that is enough time to justify a release, we'll find out soon I guess....

[J4CKO]

He always reminds me of "Big Vern" from the Viz comic.

[Dan_1981]

He's doing himself no favours is he?

[and31]

I certainly wouldn’t want him moving in next door!!

[BikeBikeBIke]

I can't see how someone so dangerous that they have to be kept in solitary confinement could safely be released.

[Slaav]

Dan_1981 said:

He's doing himself no favours is he?

That’s just what I was thinking and then read the BBC linked article - bloody hell, keep the nutter locked up!

2018 & 2019 threats to Governors, actual previous conviction for assault against a previous Governor?

“I’m getting bored mate” shows a certain ‘mind set’ that alone, probably sealed his fate?

After all, we are watching Parole on BBC - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001jfsn so we are now experts

[Fundoreen]

Its less confusing now the actual Charles Bronson is long gone and his films are rarely shown.
Did I hear that he is mostly lashing out due to fear and probably made sure he got solitary to avoid all the other prisoners?
School kids misbehave as well and cause trouble in a panic when the lessons seem hard for them.
Footballers commit a bad foul if being outplayed just to get off the pitch. Rooneys and the like did this.
All a similar pattern of inadequacy. Obviously Bronson is a hero to that type.

[rpguk]

Gecko1978 said:

https://news.sky.com/story/charles-bronson-parole-...

So he is having a parole hearing today my guess even at 70 he is not getting out as he has a history of violence and is likely going to be inside another 5 or more years until age makes him to frail to be a danger.

In film and interviews I always assume he has some significant mental health issues which spending 50 years in prison have made much worse.

What do others think

He's a fascinating character, clearly intelligent and a good artist too (I've got one of his pieces). A shame that he seems to be his own worst enemy. I'm not really sure what you'd do in his case but prison has probably been an expensive and unproductive way to manage the situation.

In terms of his current parole hearing, the BBC article says The first witness, his prison offender manager, said Bronson would not have the skills to cope with being released. The panel heard that he spends 23 hours a day in his cell and only associates with three other inmates who he does not get on with."

It strikes me that he should be weaned off solitary confinement and it'd be irresponsible to release him directly into general society as a first step.

Edited by rpguk on Monday 6th March 16:57

[21TonyK]

and31 said:

I certainly wouldn’t want him moving in next door!!

If he is released and ends up with his son, he won't be next door but close enough to bump into in Aldi!

[QuartzDad]

The sad truth is that if he were to be released he would become a target for every low-life wannabee to have a pop at. He would be goaded constantly until they got a reaction.

[Fozziebear]

QuartzDad said:

The sad truth is that if he were to be released he would become a target for every low-life wannabee to have a pop at. He would be goaded constantly until they got a reaction.

Exactly, Most of the local tough muppets will want a pop, he will either pull them apart or get stabbed, be better off moving him to a nice little island and do food drops.

[J4CKO]

Loads glamourize and celebrate people like Charles Bronson, and the Krays etc before him.

I think blokes in particular think that guys like that would be their mate, and they would go for a pint and be regaled with fantastic tales of all the "capers", I get that true crime is interesting but that mentality is like trying to cuddle a bear, it will at some point rip your head off and "the capers" were violent and distressing for those concerned, those who werent psychopaths at least.

[ZedLeg]

Bronson and Legend were both good Tom Hardy movies though.

[Gecko1978]

J4CKO said:

Loads glamourize and celebrate people like Charles Bronson, and the Krays etc before him.

I think blokes in particular think that guys like that would be their mate, and they would go for a pint and be regaled with fantastic tales of all the "capers", I get that true crime is interesting but that mentality is like trying to cuddle a bear, it will at some point rip your head off and "the capers" were violent and distressing for those concerned, those who werent psychopaths at least.

In this case there is not alot to tell he has been imprison 50 years and is a violent prisoners. I recall a friend of my mums who worked with prisoners about to be released via her role in the job center said some 20 years ago alot of the violence was for attention an also as he got older as others have said a stint in solitary made him seem dangerous but kept him away from younger fitter prisoners who might fancy a pop at him. 20 years later he is quite a pitiful figure but still I suspect a danger to wider public.

As someone said imagine his club card stopped working

[cgt2]

J4CKO said:

Loads glamourize and celebrate people like Charles Bronson, and the Krays etc before him.

I think blokes in particular think that guys like that would be their mate, and they would go for a pint and be regaled with fantastic tales of all the "capers", I get that true crime is interesting but that mentality is like trying to cuddle a bear, it will at some point rip your head off and "the capers" were violent and distressing for those concerned, those who werent psychopaths at least.

I knew an old boy (long dead now) who was part of the Krays gang in the 60's. He was very entertaining company (even though he was very guarded at times) but I had no doubt he was a very violent character in his younger days. His diminished physical presence belied some of the things he would say so that kind of mentality never really disappears completely.

[JuniorD]

Bronson is clearly off his trolley. However there's plenty more evil men who have done worse crimes on the outside who've served laughably short sentences. No wonder Branson is pissed off at all those years inside.