London Road Charging Consultation
Discussion
One of Ken Livingstone's flunkies once told me that his ambition was a "car free London".
When I called LBC about this City Hall denied the person I spoke to had ever said it.
It seems the idea is still alive..
https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-a...
When I called LBC about this City Hall denied the person I spoke to had ever said it.
It seems the idea is still alive..
https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-a...
simonrockman said:
One of Ken Livingstone's flunkies once told me that his ambition was a "car free London".
When I called LBC about this City Hall denied the person I spoke to had ever said it.
It seems the idea is still alive..
https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-a...
In 1999 Mr Livingstone declared: "I hate cars. If I ever get any powers again, I'd ban the lot"When I called LBC about this City Hall denied the person I spoke to had ever said it.
It seems the idea is still alive..
https://www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-a...
Now the other 'man of the people', Khant... is going to finish the job along with various Labour run Councils in London.
As usual a survey that steers people in a certain direction.
They never actually ask the real question which is do you want to pay to use the roads. They dont do this because they know the answer would be no!
Its always very specifically worded.
I had a go at TFGM about this (I was on a steering group for the LEZ) and they clearly knew they were asking very specifically worded questions.
It was only when it got to within 4 weeks of the scheme rolling out (after millions spent) did they listen.
They never actually ask the real question which is do you want to pay to use the roads. They dont do this because they know the answer would be no!
Its always very specifically worded.
I had a go at TFGM about this (I was on a steering group for the LEZ) and they clearly knew they were asking very specifically worded questions.
It was only when it got to within 4 weeks of the scheme rolling out (after millions spent) did they listen.
simonrockman said:
Definitely still alive, I went to a future mobility conference a couple of years ago and they had a senior TFL representative basically saying they wanted to have nice quiet streets without any vehicles on. When pressed she didn't even seem that keen on electric vehicles which eliminate the vast majority of the air quality issues or even autonomous vehicles which would eliminate a lot of the risk to pedestrians. I'm sure she never takes an Uber anywhere.They basically want to live in the countryside with the convenience of living in a city. Arguably a noble ambition but it's a fantasy. I don't know anyone that drives in London for fun. I hate public transport and even I've conceded defeat and take the train/tube unless absolutely necessary.
There can't be many vehicles left that are on London's roads without a purpose.
gotoPzero said:
As usual a survey that steers people in a certain direction.
They never actually ask the real question which is do you want to pay to use the roads. They dont do this because they know the answer would be no!
Its always very specifically worded.
I had a go at TFGM about this (I was on a steering group for the LEZ) and they clearly knew they were asking very specifically worded questions.
It was only when it got to within 4 weeks of the scheme rolling out (after millions spent) did they listen.
Couldn't let your comment go without this classic clip from Yes Minister https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahgjEjJkZks&t=...They never actually ask the real question which is do you want to pay to use the roads. They dont do this because they know the answer would be no!
Its always very specifically worded.
I had a go at TFGM about this (I was on a steering group for the LEZ) and they clearly knew they were asking very specifically worded questions.
It was only when it got to within 4 weeks of the scheme rolling out (after millions spent) did they listen.
Frimley111R said:
gotoPzero said:
As usual a survey that steers people in a certain direction.
They never actually ask the real question which is do you want to pay to use the roads. They dont do this because they know the answer would be no!
Its always very specifically worded.
I had a go at TFGM about this (I was on a steering group for the LEZ) and they clearly knew they were asking very specifically worded questions.
It was only when it got to within 4 weeks of the scheme rolling out (after millions spent) did they listen.
Couldn't let your comment go without this classic clip from Yes Minister https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahgjEjJkZks&t=...They never actually ask the real question which is do you want to pay to use the roads. They dont do this because they know the answer would be no!
Its always very specifically worded.
I had a go at TFGM about this (I was on a steering group for the LEZ) and they clearly knew they were asking very specifically worded questions.
It was only when it got to within 4 weeks of the scheme rolling out (after millions spent) did they listen.
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