2023 How much will MPs get?

[Oliver Hardy]

Place your bets on how much MPs will award themselves this year. Last year they took £2212, I believe it was 2.7%.

Of course they get it awarded by an independent pay review body and they have to take it, but other pay review body recommendations get over ruled, when it suits.

[Rufus Stone]

https://www.theipsa.org.uk/news/press-releases/ips...

[Ari]

We need to be paying an amount that attracts some actual talent - we're a LONG way off that, as the present crop clearly demonstrate.

[Terminator X]

Oliver Hardy said:

Place your bets on how much MPs will award themselves this year. Last year they took £2212, I believe it was 2.7%.

Of course they get it awarded by an independent pay review body and they have to take it, but other pay review body recommendations get over ruled, when it suits.

Didn't they get 10% or so fairly recently?

TX.

[Terminator X]

Ari said:

We need to be paying an amount that attracts some actual talent - we're a LONG way off that, as the present crop clearly demonstrate.

Lol they double or treble their salary via benefits and expenses.

TX.

[oyster]

Terminator X said:

Oliver Hardy said:

Place your bets on how much MPs will award themselves this year. Last year they took £2212, I believe it was 2.7%.

Of course they get it awarded by an independent pay review body and they have to take it, but other pay review body recommendations get over ruled, when it suits.

Didn't they get 10% or so fairly recently?

TX.

2.7%.

Don’t worry about facts though.

[eccles]

Ari said:

We need to be paying an amount that attracts some actual talent - we're a LONG way off that, as the present crop clearly demonstrate.

Wasn't the global financial crisis caused by some very well paid people?

Quite a few of our politicians are millionaires and still useless!

[Electro1980]

eccles said:

Ari said:

We need to be paying an amount that attracts some actual talent - we're a LONG way off that, as the present crop clearly demonstrate.

Wasn't the global financial crisis caused by some very well paid people?

Quite a few of our politicians are millionaires and still useless!

High pay is no guarantee of quality (despite what CEOs try and convince you).

[Terminator X]

oyster said:

Terminator X said:

Oliver Hardy said:

Place your bets on how much MPs will award themselves this year. Last year they took £2212, I believe it was 2.7%.

Of course they get it awarded by an independent pay review body and they have to take it, but other pay review body recommendations get over ruled, when it suits.

Didn't they get 10% or so fairly recently?

TX.

2.7%.

Don’t worry about facts though.

Did you miss the question? Stay strong mate.

TX.

[Oliver Hardy]

Rufus Stone said:

https://www.theipsa.org.uk/news/press-releases/ips...

And who introduced this system?

[Muzzer79]

Why shouldn’t they get a pay rise like everyone else?

[mike9009]

Muzzer79 said:

Why shouldn’t they get a pay rise like everyone else?

Maybe they should have performance related pay?

Get UK productivity up 10%, get a 10% pay rise?

[Oliver Hardy]

Terminator X said:

Ari said:

We need to be paying an amount that attracts some actual talent - we're a LONG way off that, as the present crop clearly demonstrate.

Lol they double or treble their salary via benefits and expenses.

TX.

And they are on holiday every two minutes!

Where is your evidence that paying MPs more would attract talent, looking at the qualifications of the current crop they are talented most seem to be lawyers of some sort, many have been to top schools/universities.

Edited by Oliver Hardy on Saturday 25th February 23:29

[105.4]

Muzzer79 said:

Why shouldn’t they get a pay rise like everyone else?

And who else is getting a pay rise, outside of a few public sector roles, (as usual)?

I can’t think of anyone else I know in the private sector who is getting a pay rise, except where they have been promoted or changed jobs.

So, why shouldn’t MP’s be getting a pay rise? Well, IMO, many of them do not serve us, (who pay their wages, their generous pensions and expenses).

As an example, my local MP made it perfectly clear to me personally about 8-9 months ago that “Russia must be destroyed at all costs, and that’s a cost we all must have to bare”.

That’s very easy to say when the taxpayer picks up most of your day-to-day costs. But less easy to stomach when you’re a constituent in a relatively poor, working class area, genuinely struggling to either heat your home or put food on the table, (but not both at the same time).

Don't ever forget, THEY work for US. The tail doesn’t wag the dog, or at least it shouldn’t do.

So no. I absolutely do not agree that MPs should be getting a pay rise. If they’re in it for the money, then they’re in it for the wrong reasons.

Edited by 105.4 on Sunday 26th February 08:14

[Oliver Hardy]

Muzzer79 said:

Why shouldn’t they get a pay rise like everyone else?

They do, every year they take a pay rise, while telling everyone else they can't.

[valiant]

105.4 said:

Muzzer79 said:

Why shouldn’t they get a pay rise like everyone else?

And who else is getting a pay rise, outside of a few public sector roles, (as usual)?

I can’t think of anyone else I know in the private sector who is getting a pay rise, except where they have been promoted or changed jobs.

Edited by 105.4 on Sunday 26th February 08:14

Private sector pay rises have outstripped the public sector this year by a fair margin.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/p...

[crankedup5]

Ari said:

We need to be paying an amount that attracts some actual talent - we're a LONG way off that, as the present crop clearly demonstrate.

What is ‘actual talent’ though in the context of serving the people ?

[eccles]

valiant said:

Private sector pay rises have outstripped the public sector this year by a fair margin.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/p...

You're not allowed to post that sort of information!
Haven't you seen the various strike threads,where the usual suspects think the public sector have been having regular pay rises to go with their incredible pensions, and the poor private sector are doing the right thing by keeping wages down to help with inflation!

[MikeM6]

eccles said:

valiant said:

Private sector pay rises have outstripped the public sector this year by a fair margin.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/p...

You're not allowed to post that sort of information!
Haven't you seen the various strike threads,where the usual suspects think the public sector have been having regular pay rises to go with their incredible pensions, and the poor private sector are doing the right thing by keeping wages down to help with inflation!

I'm public sector, pay is a huge problem in recruitment and we just cannot compete on a level playing field with the private sector, although we do work hard to compensate on working conditions which helps a little.

MPs taking pay rises is in poor taste and does nothing to aid public confidence, especially when many have had to deal with real term pay cuts for over a decade. I like the idea of linking pay increases to performance more, I'd be much better off and there would be incentive for some to do the same. It seems much more justifiable.

[cossy400]

crankedup5 said:

Ari said:

We need to be paying an amount that attracts some actual talent - we're a LONG way off that, as the present crop clearly demonstrate.

What is ‘actual talent’ though in the context of serving the people ?

Im probably out of touch here, but what exact "talent" do you need to be an MP?

Your a servant to your members that you represent, so surely you must just be able to listen and write down and then forward it on to the people that make a decision...

My MP is useless and after the email she sent regarding some questions i raised and all i got was a copy and paste answers with no real involvement.

I replied to her and you wonder why Starmer was so far in front if thats the replys your dishing out... oddly had no reply