Teenage girl murdered
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Yet more awfulness being reported today I see. Dread to think what happened here. As a father of 2 girls, I can’t begin to imagine what the family are going through. RIP 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64614832
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64614832
Two 15 year old’s arrested on suspicion of murder ( BBC)
As part of ongoing enquiries, a 15-year-old boy and a 15-year-old girl, both from the local area, have been arrested on suspicion of murder, a Cheshire Police statement said on Sunday evening.
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2023-02-12/detect...
As part of ongoing enquiries, a 15-year-old boy and a 15-year-old girl, both from the local area, have been arrested on suspicion of murder, a Cheshire Police statement said on Sunday evening.
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2023-02-12/detect...
Edited by Earthdweller on Sunday 12th February 21:41
Ben Jk said:
No word of that locally but doesn’t mean it’s not true…
We're local too - we could see the floodlights at the scene from our house. The village has felt really quiet since.I don't know her personally but from what I've read Brianna was trans.
Earthdweller said:
Two 15 year old’s arrested on suspicion of murder ( BBC)
As part of ongoing enquiries, a 15-year-old boy and a 15-year-old girl, both from the local area, have been arrested on suspicion of murder, a Cheshire Police statement said on Sunday evening.
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2023-02-12/detect...
Awful. It's hard to imagine how all this has developed. I can't see it being a random attack.As part of ongoing enquiries, a 15-year-old boy and a 15-year-old girl, both from the local area, have been arrested on suspicion of murder, a Cheshire Police statement said on Sunday evening.
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2023-02-12/detect...
Edited by Earthdweller on Sunday 12th February 21:41
ArsE82 said:
Ben Jk said:
No word of that locally but doesn’t mean it’s not true…
We're local too - we could see the floodlights at the scene from our house. The village has felt really quiet since.I don't know her personally but from what I've read Brianna was trans.
Earthdweller said:
Two 15 year old’s arrested on suspicion of murder ( BBC)
As part of ongoing enquiries, a 15-year-old boy and a 15-year-old girl, both from the local area, have been arrested on suspicion of murder, a Cheshire Police statement said on Sunday evening.
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2023-02-12/detect...
Awful. It's hard to imagine how all this has developed. I can't see it being a random attack.As part of ongoing enquiries, a 15-year-old boy and a 15-year-old girl, both from the local area, have been arrested on suspicion of murder, a Cheshire Police statement said on Sunday evening.
https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2023-02-12/detect...
Edited by Earthdweller on Sunday 12th February 21:41
How it can get to a point where 15 year olds are stabbing others multiple times is beyond me.
Edited by Ben Jk on Sunday 12th February 22:01
Absolutely shocking and heart breaking crime, my thoughts and condolences are with her family and friends 
And to add much insult to injury, the Daily Mail have dead named her in their article and the times have retroactively edited their article to change reference to her from "teenage girl" to "transgender teenager", showing that there is no dignity even in death to these ghoulish b
ds.
For what very little it's worth, we will remember you Brianna.
And to add much insult to injury, the Daily Mail have dead named her in their article and the times have retroactively edited their article to change reference to her from "teenage girl" to "transgender teenager", showing that there is no dignity even in death to these ghoulish b
ds.For what very little it's worth, we will remember you Brianna.
WorldBoss said:
Absolutely shocking and heart breaking crime, my thoughts and condolences are with her family and friends
And to add much insult to injury, the Daily Mail have dead named her in their article and the times have retroactively edited their article to change reference to her from "teenage girl" to "transgender teenager", showing that there is no dignity even in death to these ghoulish bds.
For what very little it's worth, we will remember you Brianna.
Awful all the way round. And to add much insult to injury, the Daily Mail have dead named her in their article and the times have retroactively edited their article to change reference to her from "teenage girl" to "transgender teenager", showing that there is no dignity even in death to these ghoulish b
ds.For what very little it's worth, we will remember you Brianna.
WorldBoss said:
Absolutely shocking and heart breaking crime, my thoughts and condolences are with her family and friends
And to add much insult to injury, the Daily Mail have dead named her in their article and the times have retroactively edited their article to change reference to her from "teenage girl" to "transgender teenager", showing that there is no dignity even in death to these ghoulish bds.
For what very little it's worth, we will remember you Brianna.
Devil's advocate - given the police are apparently looking into whether it was a factor in the murder, it is kind of relevant to mention she was trans?And to add much insult to injury, the Daily Mail have dead named her in their article and the times have retroactively edited their article to change reference to her from "teenage girl" to "transgender teenager", showing that there is no dignity even in death to these ghoulish b
ds.For what very little it's worth, we will remember you Brianna.
Earthdweller said:
LBC are reporting that the victim was a 16 year old transgender girl
Whether that is/isn’t a factor remains to be seen but regardless will I’m sure fan the flames around gender identity
( report remains to be confirmed by Police )
Yes, she is. Also, it’s the 15 year old girl who’s done the stabbing. Expelled from 2 high schools as a trouble maker. Whether that is/isn’t a factor remains to be seen but regardless will I’m sure fan the flames around gender identity
( report remains to be confirmed by Police )
All allegedly.
It’s close to me too. Drive past twice a day to work. Still cordoned off this morning.
I've had shifting thoughts on the reporting of her trans status, she was a girl, she was murdered, the daily mail looked to strip her of that dignity by dead naming and outing her. But also we have spent weeks with constant headlines on some of the most horrible criminals where transgender has been the prominent headline and constant talking point to malign the trans community. Constant articles for years portraying trans people as unreasonable, dangerous, taking rights and invading spaces This is the inevitable outcome of the stochastic terrorism that has been the mainstay of the MSM against trans people and I don't think the msm should get to brush that under the carpet.
The motivation for her murder are not yet known but it's inevitable that whatever they were their set to a background where trans people, trans women and girls in particular have been dehumanised and monsterd such that it's easier to cross that line to abuse and even murder
Rest in power Brianna
The motivation for her murder are not yet known but it's inevitable that whatever they were their set to a background where trans people, trans women and girls in particular have been dehumanised and monsterd such that it's easier to cross that line to abuse and even murder
Rest in power Brianna
Deadnaming her is unacceptable. On its own it could be forgiven as a mistake in the rush to publish, but the outing makes it look more like malice. Were there suspicions of a hate crime I might understand, but the police have explicitly stated they have no evidence for this at this time. At best it shows colossal ignorance.
It's a tragic case and another one where you wonder how the hell anyone let alone kids end up doing this to other people.
I noticed most articles online including the BBC and Guardian are also mentioning that she was transgender.
I'd understand it if the Police think it was relevant to whatever happened but it does seem a bit odd to mention it otherwise.
I noticed most articles online including the BBC and Guardian are also mentioning that she was transgender.
I'd understand it if the Police think it was relevant to whatever happened but it does seem a bit odd to mention it otherwise.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: It's a tragic case and another one where you wonder how the hell anyone let alone kids end up doing this to other people.
I noticed most articles online including the BBC and Guardian are also mentioning that she was transgender.
I'd understand it if the Police think it was relevant to whatever happened but it does seem a bit odd to mention it otherwise.
It’s the way the press works. Pick any adjective - sex, colour, height, sex, nationality, mother-of-two, dog-walker, value of their house, city-worker. Some people say it personalises the victim others say it sensationalises the story. But it’s hardly odd nowadays. It would be more odd if it was not mentioned. I noticed most articles online including the BBC and Guardian are also mentioning that she was transgender.
I'd understand it if the Police think it was relevant to whatever happened but it does seem a bit odd to mention it otherwise.
The reality for a 16 year old is that at the trial and the inquest their legal identity is still going to be one thing and not the other.
You might get upset about it (and I see one person really piling on the wailing) but their name and status is going to be reported.
Whether it's actually relevant to what happened to them is something we'll find out in due course.
You might get upset about it (and I see one person really piling on the wailing) but their name and status is going to be reported.
Whether it's actually relevant to what happened to them is something we'll find out in due course.
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