Four year old killed after dog attack
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Very saddening to read this but apparently it was in the family back garden so not sure if it was their own pet or one that managed to get in.
The article is a bit light on specific details.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-64476833
The article is a bit light on specific details.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-64476833
Rumours are it was a "trained fighting dog". No idea if that's true.
Netherfield (where it happened) is an incredibly impoverished area with some dodgy characters.
My wife was a teacher at the primary school there many years ago. One of the parents requested smoking breaks for their child.
Poor little girl
Netherfield (where it happened) is an incredibly impoverished area with some dodgy characters.
My wife was a teacher at the primary school there many years ago. One of the parents requested smoking breaks for their child.
Poor little girl
It is heartbreaking that yet another young child has died in these circumstances.
Unfortunately there's a longrunning thread on here covering dog attacks of this nature, such is the frequency of them.
These attacks are, often (but not always) typified by feckless ownership, keeping the animal in unsuitable conditions, aggressive looking muscular 'status' type dogs... etc.
Not sure how this issue gets solved.
Unfortunately there's a longrunning thread on here covering dog attacks of this nature, such is the frequency of them.
These attacks are, often (but not always) typified by feckless ownership, keeping the animal in unsuitable conditions, aggressive looking muscular 'status' type dogs... etc.
Not sure how this issue gets solved.
Previous said:
It is heartbreaking that yet another young child has died in these circumstances.
Unfortunately there's a longrunning thread on here covering dog attacks of this nature, such is the frequency of them.
These attacks are, often (but not always) typified by feckless ownership, keeping the animal in unsuitable conditions, aggressive looking muscular 'status' type dogs... etc.
Not sure how this issue gets solved.
Put them down....the owners that isUnfortunately there's a longrunning thread on here covering dog attacks of this nature, such is the frequency of them.
These attacks are, often (but not always) typified by feckless ownership, keeping the animal in unsuitable conditions, aggressive looking muscular 'status' type dogs... etc.
Not sure how this issue gets solved.
Previous said:
It is heartbreaking that yet another young child has died in these circumstances.
Unfortunately there's a longrunning thread on here covering dog attacks of this nature, such is the frequency of them.
These attacks are, often (but not always) typified by feckless ownership, keeping the animal in unsuitable conditions, aggressive looking muscular 'status' type dogs... etc.
Not sure how this issue gets solved.
A good start would be for the police not to call this "a tragic accident". They wouldn't use the same language if a drink driver run down a child and in my mind this (not being in control of a dangerous animal) is just as wreckless.Unfortunately there's a longrunning thread on here covering dog attacks of this nature, such is the frequency of them.
These attacks are, often (but not always) typified by feckless ownership, keeping the animal in unsuitable conditions, aggressive looking muscular 'status' type dogs... etc.
Not sure how this issue gets solved.
wiggy001 said:
Previous said:
It is heartbreaking that yet another young child has died in these circumstances.
Unfortunately there's a longrunning thread on here covering dog attacks of this nature, such is the frequency of them.
These attacks are, often (but not always) typified by feckless ownership, keeping the animal in unsuitable conditions, aggressive looking muscular 'status' type dogs... etc.
Not sure how this issue gets solved.
A good start would be for the police not to call this "a tragic accident". They wouldn't use the same language if a drink driver run down a child and in my mind this (not being in control of a dangerous animal) is just as wreckless.Unfortunately there's a longrunning thread on here covering dog attacks of this nature, such is the frequency of them.
These attacks are, often (but not always) typified by feckless ownership, keeping the animal in unsuitable conditions, aggressive looking muscular 'status' type dogs... etc.
Not sure how this issue gets solved.
I should probably add - I don't know the facts of this particular attack, or the breed of dog and circumstances of its ownership; it is tragic and it may well be that nothing reasonable could have been done beforehand to identify risk and mitigate it.
Will wait and see.
The above largely irrelevant for the poor tot as well, certainly at this stage.
Will wait and see.
The above largely irrelevant for the poor tot as well, certainly at this stage.
wiggy001 said:
Previous said:
It is heartbreaking that yet another young child has died in these circumstances.
Unfortunately there's a longrunning thread on here covering dog attacks of this nature, such is the frequency of them.
These attacks are, often (but not always) typified by feckless ownership, keeping the animal in unsuitable conditions, aggressive looking muscular 'status' type dogs... etc.
Not sure how this issue gets solved.
A good start would be for the police not to call this "a tragic accident". They wouldn't use the same language if a drink driver run down a child and in my mind this (not being in control of a dangerous animal) is just as wreckless.Unfortunately there's a longrunning thread on here covering dog attacks of this nature, such is the frequency of them.
These attacks are, often (but not always) typified by feckless ownership, keeping the animal in unsuitable conditions, aggressive looking muscular 'status' type dogs... etc.
Not sure how this issue gets solved.
Why is there a need in these breeds? Do they make good pets? I’d be scared it’s going to kill me in my sleep.
Sycamore said:
I'm not sure why they need to add that the animal was "humanely" destroyed.
Who cares? Smash its' head in with a brick. The owners too.
Agree... That's not the courtesy the Dog gave to the young child....Who cares? Smash its' head in with a brick. The owners too.
We all know any dog can be involved in this sort of problem, the Caterham dog's attack proved that, but we need rules put in place for knowingly aggressive breeds.
Every one with a 'Dangerous' breed should be vetted and require a license, for which they will be charged a fee as per a firearms license, and they should not be allowed around young children. If you want that sort of dog you should prove that your'e responsible enough to own it.
If your dog attacks someone, you should be charged with ABH, Manslaughter, Murder as befits the attack.
If your'e found with an unlicensed dog, you get find as per a firearms licesnse
super7 said:
Sycamore said:
I'm not sure why they need to add that the animal was "humanely" destroyed.
Who cares? Smash its' head in with a brick. The owners too.
Agree... That's not the courtesy the Dog gave to the young child....Who cares? Smash its' head in with a brick. The owners too.
We all know any dog can be involved in this sort of problem, the Caterham dog's attack proved that, but we need rules put in place for knowingly aggressive breeds.
Every one with a 'Dangerous' breed should be vetted and require a license, for which they will be charged a fee as per a firearms license, and they should not be allowed around young children. If you want that sort of dog you should prove that your'e responsible enough to own it.
If your dog attacks someone, you should be charged with ABH, Manslaughter, Murder as befits the attack.
If your'e found with an unlicensed dog, you get find as per a firearms licesnse
The news is like its created by AI, the same st happening with tedious, tragic regularity, I just saw the face of that little girl on the news, dont mind admitting it had me welling up a bit.
You can predict with some certainty what the house involve will look like and more or less what the dog will look like. Its never a Bichon in a five bed with a double garage is it that kills a child.
Always a bloke gets a dog from someone he knows, gumtree or whatever, its always massive and scary looking, and its always what is or looks like local authority housing. Not to demonise people who live in council houses by any means, just the stupid fkers that by a ten stone four legged Staff/Velociraptor/Demon hybrid when they live in a tiny house with small children and then not train and socialise it.
Any dog can cause injury, like any gun can, but do you buy an AR15 or a Nerf Gun for your kids to be around in a fairly confined space ?
Its weird, I live in a pretty expensive area, there is one council bit nestled in between streets of million pound houses, the only time I have had a properly scary incident where a dog wanted to shred my little scruffy mongrel was coming out of a passage there as some tracksuited halfwit was trying to restrain something massive with a foot wide head full of teeth, luckily the other one that was around, without a lead had been summoned into the house with some expletives just to reinforce the tone of the area.
I think a lot of it comes from a lack of status, maybe some element of protection but maybe if you are at the bottom of the pile, designer clothes, expensive cars, jewelry and a scary dog are a way to try and gain a bit ? When really it just makes you look a scrote trying to compensate for something.
You can predict with some certainty what the house involve will look like and more or less what the dog will look like. Its never a Bichon in a five bed with a double garage is it that kills a child.
Always a bloke gets a dog from someone he knows, gumtree or whatever, its always massive and scary looking, and its always what is or looks like local authority housing. Not to demonise people who live in council houses by any means, just the stupid fkers that by a ten stone four legged Staff/Velociraptor/Demon hybrid when they live in a tiny house with small children and then not train and socialise it.
Any dog can cause injury, like any gun can, but do you buy an AR15 or a Nerf Gun for your kids to be around in a fairly confined space ?
Its weird, I live in a pretty expensive area, there is one council bit nestled in between streets of million pound houses, the only time I have had a properly scary incident where a dog wanted to shred my little scruffy mongrel was coming out of a passage there as some tracksuited halfwit was trying to restrain something massive with a foot wide head full of teeth, luckily the other one that was around, without a lead had been summoned into the house with some expletives just to reinforce the tone of the area.
I think a lot of it comes from a lack of status, maybe some element of protection but maybe if you are at the bottom of the pile, designer clothes, expensive cars, jewelry and a scary dog are a way to try and gain a bit ? When really it just makes you look a scrote trying to compensate for something.
J4CKO said:
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Always a bloke gets a dog from someone he knows, gumtree or whatever, its always massive and scary looking, and its always what is or looks like local authority housing. Not to demonise people who live in council houses by any means, just the stupid fkers that by a ten stone four legged Staff/Velociraptor/Demon hybrid when they live in a tiny house with small children and then not train and socialise it.
..... and beats the st out of it when it misbehaves or get's in the way or does anything that allows the owner to dominate it. Makes him/her look big in front of their mates that they can dominate a huge, dangerous, dog.Always a bloke gets a dog from someone he knows, gumtree or whatever, its always massive and scary looking, and its always what is or looks like local authority housing. Not to demonise people who live in council houses by any means, just the stupid fkers that by a ten stone four legged Staff/Velociraptor/Demon hybrid when they live in a tiny house with small children and then not train and socialise it.
super7 said:
super7 said:
Sycamore said:
I'm not sure why they need to add that the animal was "humanely" destroyed.
Who cares? Smash its' head in with a brick. The owners too.
Agree... That's not the courtesy the Dog gave to the young child....Who cares? Smash its' head in with a brick. The owners too.
We all know any dog can be involved in this sort of problem, the Caterham dog's attack proved that, but we need rules put in place for knowingly aggressive breeds.
Every one with a 'Dangerous' breed should be vetted and require a license, for which they will be charged a fee as per a firearms license, and they should not be allowed around young children. If you want that sort of dog you should prove that your'e responsible enough to own it.
If your dog attacks someone, you should be charged with ABH, Manslaughter, Murder as befits the attack.
If your'e found with an unlicensed dog, you get find as per a firearms licesnse
nammynake said:
Judging by the house I don’t think this will be a cockapoo. Let me guess, a mouth-breathing dole scum with a status dog.
I saw the house on the news, why do these attacks always seem to happen in similar surroundings?The news also reported the police were trying to find out the breed of dog, so likely a cross breed or something illegal.
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