Suppose covid hadn't happened?

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Lost ranger

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312 posts

71 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Suppose things had gone differently in Wuhan and the virus had never escaped into the human population. Obviously in the short term a good deal of trouble would have been avoided, but how might life be different now?

The trend towards working from home wouldn't have accelerated for one thing.

Probably the same would apply to cashless shopping.

Without wishing to sound too conspiratorial, Govts and councils would not have discovered just how keen a lot of the public are on having their freedoms restricted. For example 15 minute cities ETC might not be catching on.

Niponeoff

2,404 posts

33 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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My daughter wouldn't be born! Wife didn't want 4 and was going to get her terminated, but lockdown and travel restrictions happened.

She's beautiful too! A survivor!

(And id still have a C63s!) Lol

Edited by Niponeoff on Monday 23 January 19:32

Alorotom

12,108 posts

193 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Personally, I would be living and working in Fuzhou in China full time now had it all not happened.

I think a lot of peoples finances would be in better condition as the surge in home shopping to pass the time wouldn't have happened.

The public sector wouldn't be as shambolic if home working hadn't happened - lots are still very ineffectual as they have never got to grips with it (having a dedicated work space, how to be productive at home, how to be managed remotely, etc.)

Chlorothalonil

3,626 posts

207 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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It has saved me 120k miles of driving in that period so that’s quite welcome.

Niponeoff

2,404 posts

33 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Chlorothalonil said:
It has saved me 120k miles of driving in that period so that’s quite welcome.
You're on the wrong forum!

Randy Winkman

17,303 posts

195 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Lost ranger said:
Suppose things had gone differently in Wuhan and the virus had never escaped into the human population. Obviously in the short term a good deal of trouble would have been avoided, but how might life be different now?

The trend towards working from home wouldn't have accelerated for one thing.

Probably the same would apply to cashless shopping.

Without wishing to sound too conspiratorial, Govts and councils would not have discovered just how keen a lot of the public are on having their freedoms restricted. For example 15 minute cities ETC might not be catching on.
I dont get the link between Covid and 15 minute cities. People were just as concerned and confused by Covid as the Government were and went along with it because they didnt have the information to do otherwise. I dont think that means they will just ago along with other things in the same way. I think lots of people will go along with 15 minute cities because they can see as clear as the nose on their face that there is clearly too much traffic in their area.

Work from home has changed radically for many though. Plus smaller things like doing click and collect then sitting outside a shop in your car and having someone bring it out to you and put it in the boot. eg Currys PC World.

QJumper

2,709 posts

32 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Lost ranger said:
Suppose things had gone differently in Wuhan and the virus had never escaped into the human population. Obviously in the short term a good deal of trouble would have been avoided, but how might life be different now?

The trend towards working from home wouldn't have accelerated for one thing.

Probably the same would apply to cashless shopping.

Without wishing to sound too conspiratorial, Govts and councils would not have discovered just how keen a lot of the public are on having their freedoms restricted. For example 15 minute cities ETC might not be catching on.
I don't know about being conspiratorial but, with things like working from home and 15 minute cities, perhaps being forced in that direction has helped accelerate an evolution in the way we live and work.

Lost ranger

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312 posts

71 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Randy Winkman said:
I dont get the link between Covid and 15 minute cities. People were just as concerned and confused by Covid as the Government were and went along with it because they didnt have the information to do otherwise. I dont think that means they will just ago along with other things in the same way. I think lots of people will go along with 15 minute cities because they can see as clear as the nose on their face that there is clearly too much traffic in their area.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/15-minute-neighbourhood-covid

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20201214-how-...

xx99xx

2,203 posts

79 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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How might life be different? It wouldn't be, it would be largely the same as pre COVID.

monkfish1

11,691 posts

230 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Randy Winkman said:
I dont get the link between Covid and 15 minute cities. People were just as concerned and confused by Covid as the Government were and went along with it because they didnt have the information to do otherwise. I dont think that means they will just ago along with other things in the same way. I think lots of people will go along with 15 minute cities because they can see as clear as the nose on their face that there is clearly too much traffic in their area.

Work from home has changed radically for many though. Plus smaller things like doing click and collect then sitting outside a shop in your car and having someone bring it out to you and put it in the boot. eg Currys PC World.
I simply cant get my head round why anyone would want to live in an open prison, restricted to where and how often thay can go,but, i suspect you might be right.

alock

4,283 posts

217 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Jan 2020 I asked to work from home on Fridays. Was told no. Two months later the entire company started working from home five days a week and continues to this day.

I was mid-divorce and it allowed me to have 50/50 custody of my children. I now have a far better life with them than I was envisioning and i's also saved me £600/month child maintenance. That money allowed me to buy a much nicer home in a nicer area.

Without covid, I would be the typical 'every other weekend' dad, and probably living in a cheap flat somewhere.

vaud

51,848 posts

161 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Niponeoff said:
Chlorothalonil said:
It has saved me 120k miles of driving in that period so that’s quite welcome.
You're on the wrong forum!
Driving 40-50k a year is never fun.

PH is about enjoying driving whether it is 1k or 20k, it's not even about what you drive. smile

markymarkthree

2,499 posts

177 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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I probably wouldn't have retired and we wouldn't have bought a lodge in Cornwall.

JuanCarlosFandango

8,178 posts

77 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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I'd still think the news was basically true.

Catastrophic Poo

5,069 posts

192 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Nothing particularly major.

Although my OH was pivotal enough in the response for our NHS trust that they are now on the board of it. So I suppose there’s that, probably a sooner retirement!

troika

1,964 posts

157 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Stuff wouldn’t cost as much as it does now.

Randy Winkman

17,303 posts

195 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Lost ranger said:
Randy Winkman said:
I dont get the link between Covid and 15 minute cities. People were just as concerned and confused by Covid as the Government were and went along with it because they didnt have the information to do otherwise. I dont think that means they will just ago along with other things in the same way. I think lots of people will go along with 15 minute cities because they can see as clear as the nose on their face that there is clearly too much traffic in their area.
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/15-minute-neighbourhood-covid

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20201214-how-...
Cheers. 2 good links that show the connection between the 2 - perhaps I had underestimated that. But what I really meant to say with the opening poster was that I don't agree that the fact that people went along with Covid restrictions means that they will accept somehow being duped into having 15 minute city restrictions without genuinely seeing and wanting the potential benefits of them.

Cold

15,511 posts

96 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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I'd probably be about a stone lighter and the dent in the sofa cushion might not be as pronounced.

But Cadbury wouldn't have had such a profitable year.

bigpriest

1,731 posts

136 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Freedom restricted? As opposed to having to drive to an office with hundreds of others at the same time and sit in an open-plan office with hundreds of others from 9 to 5? I've never felt more free working from home.

Randy Winkman

17,303 posts

195 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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monkfish1 said:
Randy Winkman said:
I dont get the link between Covid and 15 minute cities. People were just as concerned and confused by Covid as the Government were and went along with it because they didnt have the information to do otherwise. I dont think that means they will just ago along with other things in the same way. I think lots of people will go along with 15 minute cities because they can see as clear as the nose on their face that there is clearly too much traffic in their area.

Work from home has changed radically for many though. Plus smaller things like doing click and collect then sitting outside a shop in your car and having someone bring it out to you and put it in the boot. eg Currys PC World.
I simply cant get my head round why anyone would want to live in an open prison, restricted to where and how often thay can go,but, i suspect you might be right.
Driving is restricted but people going to places isn't. Perhaps for another thread though. smile