The Bent Copper Thread
Discussion
IMO there's not much worse than bent Coppers - those who abuse the power granted and trust assumed.
I've had plenty of family and friends in The Job so find it doubly heinous. Obviously there's going to be bad apples in every barrel though.
I've personally known this fella socially for quite a while. Knew he was a bit odd but... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-h...
Saw this one today https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/met-officer-...
I've had plenty of family and friends in The Job so find it doubly heinous. Obviously there's going to be bad apples in every barrel though.
I've personally known this fella socially for quite a while. Knew he was a bit odd but... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-h...
Saw this one today https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/met-officer-...
Edited by Al Gorithum on Thursday 19th January 15:56
Al Gorithum said:
IMO there's not much worse than bent Coppers - those who abuse the power granted and trust assumed.
I've had plenty of family and friends in The Job so find it doubly heinous. Obviously there's going to be bad apples in every barrel though.
I've personally known this fella for quite a while. Knew he was a bit odd but... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-h...
Saw this one today https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/met-officer-...
Being a bit pedantic, are those example of bent coppers? I'd assumed bent meant on the take or dishonest. ? I've had plenty of family and friends in The Job so find it doubly heinous. Obviously there's going to be bad apples in every barrel though.
I've personally known this fella for quite a while. Knew he was a bit odd but... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-h...
Saw this one today https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/met-officer-...
In my opinion, bearing in mind nobody is perfect and people do make mistakes, but if you go into the job, swear the oath, and then found to have quite blatantly broken the law, and have done so in awful ways, then what is imposed by folliwing the sentencing guidelines needs to be doubled. Have no truck with them.
But I'm just old fashioned in that way.
But I'm just old fashioned in that way.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-64400...
Two or three Met officers to face court a week!
Two or three Met officers to face court a week!
s1962a said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-64400...
Two or three Met officers to face court a week!
Be fair- they've said they're sorry. How much more do you want than that?Two or three Met officers to face court a week!
In days gone by if your colleagues smelt a rat or someone was a wrong'un then it's was a 5 minute interview with the Chief inspector and you were out of the door minus your uniform and warrant card. If it was serious with a stack of evidence then of course you might get done as well.
It was easy to get rid of people then. I'm talking 80's 90's etc...
Now it's all dragged out with hearings, tribunals and appeals etc etc.
Recruitment also had better vetting with proper home visits and 6 months at training school with some discipline.
Your new best friends soon spotted chancers/racists/weirdos and they never made it past the probation.
Of course some bad apples will get through in any job and we just hope it is a tiny minority and that they come unstuck in the end.
In my time I saw a few people disappear overnight when caught out, their name was hardly ever mentioned again in polite circles.
Petty theft, fraud and inappropriate sexual liaisons seemed to be the downfall that befell the majority of these.
There is no doubting it's a tough 'job' and when I joined more of a calling with dedicated career officers who worked bloody hard for the good of society.
Now it seems to be a use and abuse system, rapidly burning out inexperienced officers with insane workloads and drowning them in a massive pile of corporate cobblers.
It was easy to get rid of people then. I'm talking 80's 90's etc...
Now it's all dragged out with hearings, tribunals and appeals etc etc.
Recruitment also had better vetting with proper home visits and 6 months at training school with some discipline.
Your new best friends soon spotted chancers/racists/weirdos and they never made it past the probation.
Of course some bad apples will get through in any job and we just hope it is a tiny minority and that they come unstuck in the end.
In my time I saw a few people disappear overnight when caught out, their name was hardly ever mentioned again in polite circles.
Petty theft, fraud and inappropriate sexual liaisons seemed to be the downfall that befell the majority of these.
There is no doubting it's a tough 'job' and when I joined more of a calling with dedicated career officers who worked bloody hard for the good of society.
Now it seems to be a use and abuse system, rapidly burning out inexperienced officers with insane workloads and drowning them in a massive pile of corporate cobblers.
An example of how quick the job used to get rid of people
I arrested someone outside a pub and as I was taking them to the van they kicked off I was with a probationer who did nothing and when the prisoner kicked off he said “let him go and he’ll stop resisting”
This set the crowd off
I got a right kicking I was pinned down over a car and given a right working over and the prisoner got away
The Chief Inspector when he found out called the lad into his office and asked for his warrant card which he handed over to be told he’d just resigned
He was gone the next day
Training school was brutal for getting rid of people too as were the tutor units on divisions .. there was no messing about at all
If they felt you weren’t up to the job or making the grade or not suitable you’d be out on your ear faster than you could imagine
Getting in the job was bloody hard, it took me 2 years from applying to starting it seemed like they tried to piss you about as much as possible to see if you REALLY wanted it
Home visit,
go to the local stn to be weighed and measured
go to your Dr for a medical
go to the Opticians for an eyesight test
attend local force HQ to sit an exam
pass a fitness test
All before you’d be invited for a two day assessment which included fitness test, written test, medical and final interview
Then wait six months for a start date before your 20 week residential training course with exams every two weeks, fail two and you were out
Then regular exams over the next two years at the Continuation training centre .. again failure would lead to dismissal
After two years you’d have to be recommended for confirmation and then sit a “Final exam” one everything you’d learnt .. fail that and you were out
Fast forward to today …
you can apply online, be interviewed by zoom by HR from an outside contractor, have zero vetting done and start three weeks after you applied
And now they wonder what’s gone wrong
I arrested someone outside a pub and as I was taking them to the van they kicked off I was with a probationer who did nothing and when the prisoner kicked off he said “let him go and he’ll stop resisting”
This set the crowd off
I got a right kicking I was pinned down over a car and given a right working over and the prisoner got away
The Chief Inspector when he found out called the lad into his office and asked for his warrant card which he handed over to be told he’d just resigned
He was gone the next day
Training school was brutal for getting rid of people too as were the tutor units on divisions .. there was no messing about at all
If they felt you weren’t up to the job or making the grade or not suitable you’d be out on your ear faster than you could imagine
Getting in the job was bloody hard, it took me 2 years from applying to starting it seemed like they tried to piss you about as much as possible to see if you REALLY wanted it
Home visit,
go to the local stn to be weighed and measured
go to your Dr for a medical
go to the Opticians for an eyesight test
attend local force HQ to sit an exam
pass a fitness test
All before you’d be invited for a two day assessment which included fitness test, written test, medical and final interview
Then wait six months for a start date before your 20 week residential training course with exams every two weeks, fail two and you were out
Then regular exams over the next two years at the Continuation training centre .. again failure would lead to dismissal
After two years you’d have to be recommended for confirmation and then sit a “Final exam” one everything you’d learnt .. fail that and you were out
Fast forward to today …
you can apply online, be interviewed by zoom by HR from an outside contractor, have zero vetting done and start three weeks after you applied
And now they wonder what’s gone wrong
Earthdweller said:
An example of how quick the job used to get rid of people
I arrested someone outside a pub and as I was taking them to the van they kicked off I was with a probationer who did nothing and when the prisoner kicked off he said “let him go and he’ll stop resisting”
This set the crowd off
I got a right kicking I was pinned down over a car and given a right working over and the prisoner got away
The Chief Inspector when he found out called the lad into his office and asked for his warrant card which he handed over to be told he’d just resigned
He was gone the next day
Training school was brutal for getting rid of people too as were the tutor units on divisions .. there was no messing about at all
If they felt you weren’t up to the job or making the grade or not suitable you’d be out on your ear faster than you could imagine
Getting in the job was bloody hard, it took me 2 years from applying to starting it seemed like they tried to piss you about as much as possible to see if you REALLY wanted it
Home visit,
go to the local stn to be weighed and measured
go to your Dr for a medical
go to the Opticians for an eyesight test
attend local force HQ to sit an exam
pass a fitness test
All before you’d be invited for a two day assessment which included fitness test, written test, medical and final interview
Then wait six months for a start date before your 20 week residential training course with exams every two weeks, fail two and you were out
Then regular exams over the next two years at the Continuation training centre .. again failure would lead to dismissal
After two years you’d have to be recommended for confirmation and then sit a “Final exam” one everything you’d learnt .. fail that and you were out
Fast forward to today …
you can apply online, be interviewed by zoom by HR from an outside contractor, have zero vetting done and start three weeks after you applied
And now they wonder what’s gone wrong
Yes. Well done Tories (laughingly known as the party of law and order) for doing their best to demotivate a professional service , causing the best of them to leave.I arrested someone outside a pub and as I was taking them to the van they kicked off I was with a probationer who did nothing and when the prisoner kicked off he said “let him go and he’ll stop resisting”
This set the crowd off
I got a right kicking I was pinned down over a car and given a right working over and the prisoner got away
The Chief Inspector when he found out called the lad into his office and asked for his warrant card which he handed over to be told he’d just resigned
He was gone the next day
Training school was brutal for getting rid of people too as were the tutor units on divisions .. there was no messing about at all
If they felt you weren’t up to the job or making the grade or not suitable you’d be out on your ear faster than you could imagine
Getting in the job was bloody hard, it took me 2 years from applying to starting it seemed like they tried to piss you about as much as possible to see if you REALLY wanted it
Home visit,
go to the local stn to be weighed and measured
go to your Dr for a medical
go to the Opticians for an eyesight test
attend local force HQ to sit an exam
pass a fitness test
All before you’d be invited for a two day assessment which included fitness test, written test, medical and final interview
Then wait six months for a start date before your 20 week residential training course with exams every two weeks, fail two and you were out
Then regular exams over the next two years at the Continuation training centre .. again failure would lead to dismissal
After two years you’d have to be recommended for confirmation and then sit a “Final exam” one everything you’d learnt .. fail that and you were out
Fast forward to today …
you can apply online, be interviewed by zoom by HR from an outside contractor, have zero vetting done and start three weeks after you applied
And now they wonder what’s gone wrong
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