The Bent Copper Thread

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Al Gorithum

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4,105 posts

214 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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IMO there's not much worse than bent Coppers - those who abuse the power granted and trust assumed.

I've had plenty of family and friends in The Job so find it doubly heinous. Obviously there's going to be bad apples in every barrel though.

I've personally known this fella socially for quite a while. Knew he was a bit odd but... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-h...

Saw this one today https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/met-officer-...

Edited by Al Gorithum on Thursday 19th January 15:56

i4got

5,732 posts

84 months

Thursday 19th January 2023
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Al Gorithum said:
IMO there's not much worse than bent Coppers - those who abuse the power granted and trust assumed.

I've had plenty of family and friends in The Job so find it doubly heinous. Obviously there's going to be bad apples in every barrel though.

I've personally known this fella for quite a while. Knew he was a bit odd but... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-h...

Saw this one today https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/met-officer-...
Being a bit pedantic, are those example of bent coppers? I'd assumed bent meant on the take or dishonest. ?


FiF

45,265 posts

257 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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In my opinion, bearing in mind nobody is perfect and people do make mistakes, but if you go into the job, swear the oath, and then found to have quite blatantly broken the law, and have done so in awful ways, then what is imposed by folliwing the sentencing guidelines needs to be doubled. Have no truck with them.

But I'm just old fashioned in that way.


ScotHill

3,439 posts

115 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Ian and Iain Bent are brothers who are policemen. One is corrupt and the other is homosexual. They both suffer from curvature of the spine, and they're made of copper – they're robots in the future.

Vanden Saab

14,706 posts

80 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Not another plumbing thread. hehe

ScotHill

3,439 posts

115 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Vanden Saab said:
Not another plumbing thread. hehe
Hey, pipe down.

Al Gorithum

Original Poster:

4,105 posts

214 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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ScotHill said:
Vanden Saab said:
Not another plumbing thread. hehe
Hey, pipe down.
Should be able to flush these out biggrin

Digger

15,109 posts

197 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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Al Gorithum said:
ScotHill said:
Vanden Saab said:
Not another plumbing thread. hehe
Hey, pipe down.
Should be able to flush these out biggrin
I think this thread is less about the individual & more about the cistern.

Camoradi

4,369 posts

262 months

Friday 20th January 2023
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I heard a story about a bent copper who was sacked, and subsequently got a job on the buses, as a conductor

Al Gorithum

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4,105 posts

214 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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s1962a

5,682 posts

168 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-64400...

Two or three Met officers to face court a week!

Catastrophic Poo

5,069 posts

192 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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Oh dear…

"violence against women and girls offences", such as domestic abuse and sex offences.

fourstardan

4,884 posts

150 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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Trouble with the police is everyone is far too trusted within the police.

Stuff can go on for years undetected.


s1962a

5,682 posts

168 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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We tell our kids to "go find a policeman" if they are in trouble or need help. The police need to be trusted and weed out the bad ones.

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

50 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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s1962a said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-64400...

Two or three Met officers to face court a week!
Be fair- they've said they're sorry. How much more do you want than that?

Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

285 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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I thought this was going to be a thread about plumbing.

peterperkins

3,201 posts

248 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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In days gone by if your colleagues smelt a rat or someone was a wrong'un then it's was a 5 minute interview with the Chief inspector and you were out of the door minus your uniform and warrant card. If it was serious with a stack of evidence then of course you might get done as well.

It was easy to get rid of people then. I'm talking 80's 90's etc...
Now it's all dragged out with hearings, tribunals and appeals etc etc.

Recruitment also had better vetting with proper home visits and 6 months at training school with some discipline.
Your new best friends soon spotted chancers/racists/weirdos and they never made it past the probation.

Of course some bad apples will get through in any job and we just hope it is a tiny minority and that they come unstuck in the end.

In my time I saw a few people disappear overnight when caught out, their name was hardly ever mentioned again in polite circles.
Petty theft, fraud and inappropriate sexual liaisons seemed to be the downfall that befell the majority of these.

There is no doubting it's a tough 'job' and when I joined more of a calling with dedicated career officers who worked bloody hard for the good of society.

Now it seems to be a use and abuse system, rapidly burning out inexperienced officers with insane workloads and drowning them in a massive pile of corporate cobblers.

XCP

17,123 posts

234 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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We also had proactive C and D who were not averse to staking out pubs where they suspected officers were refreshing on duty. And yes it really was a friend who was caught...

Earthdweller

14,223 posts

132 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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An example of how quick the job used to get rid of people

I arrested someone outside a pub and as I was taking them to the van they kicked off I was with a probationer who did nothing and when the prisoner kicked off he said “let him go and he’ll stop resisting”

This set the crowd off

I got a right kicking I was pinned down over a car and given a right working over and the prisoner got away

The Chief Inspector when he found out called the lad into his office and asked for his warrant card which he handed over to be told he’d just resigned

He was gone the next day

Training school was brutal for getting rid of people too as were the tutor units on divisions .. there was no messing about at all

If they felt you weren’t up to the job or making the grade or not suitable you’d be out on your ear faster than you could imagine

Getting in the job was bloody hard, it took me 2 years from applying to starting it seemed like they tried to piss you about as much as possible to see if you REALLY wanted it

Home visit,
go to the local stn to be weighed and measured
go to your Dr for a medical
go to the Opticians for an eyesight test
attend local force HQ to sit an exam
pass a fitness test

All before you’d be invited for a two day assessment which included fitness test, written test, medical and final interview

Then wait six months for a start date before your 20 week residential training course with exams every two weeks, fail two and you were out

Then regular exams over the next two years at the Continuation training centre .. again failure would lead to dismissal

After two years you’d have to be recommended for confirmation and then sit a “Final exam” one everything you’d learnt .. fail that and you were out


Fast forward to today …

you can apply online, be interviewed by zoom by HR from an outside contractor, have zero vetting done and start three weeks after you applied

And now they wonder what’s gone wrong

Al Gorithum

Original Poster:

4,105 posts

214 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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Earthdweller said:
An example of how quick the job used to get rid of people

I arrested someone outside a pub and as I was taking them to the van they kicked off I was with a probationer who did nothing and when the prisoner kicked off he said “let him go and he’ll stop resisting”

This set the crowd off

I got a right kicking I was pinned down over a car and given a right working over and the prisoner got away

The Chief Inspector when he found out called the lad into his office and asked for his warrant card which he handed over to be told he’d just resigned

He was gone the next day

Training school was brutal for getting rid of people too as were the tutor units on divisions .. there was no messing about at all

If they felt you weren’t up to the job or making the grade or not suitable you’d be out on your ear faster than you could imagine

Getting in the job was bloody hard, it took me 2 years from applying to starting it seemed like they tried to piss you about as much as possible to see if you REALLY wanted it

Home visit,
go to the local stn to be weighed and measured
go to your Dr for a medical
go to the Opticians for an eyesight test
attend local force HQ to sit an exam
pass a fitness test

All before you’d be invited for a two day assessment which included fitness test, written test, medical and final interview

Then wait six months for a start date before your 20 week residential training course with exams every two weeks, fail two and you were out

Then regular exams over the next two years at the Continuation training centre .. again failure would lead to dismissal

After two years you’d have to be recommended for confirmation and then sit a “Final exam” one everything you’d learnt .. fail that and you were out


Fast forward to today …

you can apply online, be interviewed by zoom by HR from an outside contractor, have zero vetting done and start three weeks after you applied

And now they wonder what’s gone wrong
Yes. Well done Tories (laughingly known as the party of law and order) for doing their best to demotivate a professional service , causing the best of them to leave.