Bring cake to the office? You're a killer!

Bring cake to the office? You're a killer!

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Mammasaid

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4,218 posts

103 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Bringing cake into the office should be seen as harmful to your colleagues in the same way as passive smoking, the chairwoman of Britain’s top food watchdog has said.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/times-health-co...

ScotHill

3,439 posts

115 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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The occasional cake/donuts on someone's birthday is okay, but I regularly walked past teams in our office where there was constantly cakes, donuts, biscuits etc lying on top of one of the empty desks, every day. I'd be happy with a workplace rule that said special occasions only, if you want your donuts outside of that go and eat them outside the fire exit. smile

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

50 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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She presumes that people are incapable of exercising choice as to whether they eat the cake.

fat80b

2,436 posts

227 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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I can see it (although I don't agree with her that it should be stopped - and definitely isn't equivalent to passive smoking)

I used to work at a place that was "cakes on your birthday"- what it meant was that there were cakes available every day, sometimes from multiple people. The building held about 500 people and had 8 little kitchen areas so if people were hungry, all they had to do was try a couple of kitchens and there'd be bags full of donuts etc.

I realised pretty early on to not partake in the cake thing and almost never gave in and tasted the jammy goodness...

ScotHill

3,439 posts

115 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Biggy Stardust said:
She presumes that people are incapable of exercising choice as to whether they eat the cake.
Some people aren't, probably a lot of people, fact is if the cake wasn't there only a handful of people would be going out to buy some cake to eat. if you're trying to discipline your eating, the majority of the battle is just not buying the food in the first place; if someone puts it right in front of you you're most of the way towards eating it.

I'm not saying it's a massive problem, there just should be some consideration for it, there are plenty of other threads to justifiably have a froth-wk over.

bigpriest

1,731 posts

136 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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There's more risk if you refuse the offer of cake - the looks you get!

Mammasaid

Original Poster:

4,218 posts

103 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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ScotHill said:
Some people aren't, probably a lot of people, fact is if the cake wasn't there only a handful of people would be going out to buy some cake to eat. if you're trying to discipline your eating, the majority of the battle is just not buying the food in the first place; if someone puts it right in front of you you're most of the way towards eating it.

I'm not saying it's a massive problem, there just should be some consideration for it, there are plenty of other threads to justifiably have a froth-wk over.
The thread was created tongue-in-cheek, however conflating cake with passive smoking is quite the leap.

J210

4,604 posts

189 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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the lunatics really are running the asylum

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

204 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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These people like to pop-up occasionally to remind us of the puritanical, authoritarian, joyless world they'd like us all to live in. Because chosing for themselves isn't enough, they want to chose for you too.

Superflow

1,457 posts

138 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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fat80b said:
I can see it (although I don't agree with her that it should be stopped - and definitely isn't equivalent to passive smoking)

I used to work at a place that was "cakes on your birthday"- what it meant was that there were cakes available every day, sometimes from multiple people. The building held about 500 people and had 8 little kitchen areas so if people were hungry, all they had to do was try a couple of kitchens and there'd be bags full of donuts etc.

I realised pretty early on to not partake in the cake thing and almost never gave in and tasted the jammy goodness...
Ironic username,was it Greggs?spin

tim0409

4,791 posts

165 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Sometimes it’s unavoidable in an office environment; what are you meant to do when someone holds a bun to your head?

Pit Pony

9,129 posts

127 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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I was jokingly threatened a woman with a trip to HR.

She brought in loads of cakes and biscuits because it was her birthday, for everyone to share.

Nothing for the vegans, gluten and nut adverse, and dieters (me)

I told her that she was going against the business policy and culture of celebrating diversity.

Plus I personally felt that she was participating in work place bullying, because she knew I was on a diet, and had no will power, and this was making me feel belittled.

Unfortunately she burst into tears. Some people have no sense of irony.

3 months later I bought in a basket of fruit for my birthday. She complained bitterly that there were no cakes. All 18 fking stone of her.

Edited by Pit Pony on Wednesday 18th January 12:40

Previous

1,493 posts

160 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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As someone who would take in a healthy option too (usually a punnet of strawberries next to the cakes) I feel this level of intervention from the health commission is unkneaded.

Last Visit

3,001 posts

194 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Eating cake in the office is a choice. Me paying taxes that supprt a significant part of NHS funding that treats issues linked to obesity isn't.

Not saying the cake/passive smoking comparison holds true but we cant always say its up to peope what they eat, as in their actions (whether we think they're stupid, uneducated or just plain fat/lazy) have zero effect elsewhere.


eharding

14,099 posts

290 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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tim0409 said:
Sometimes it’s unavoidable in an office environment; what are you meant to do when someone holds a bun to your head?
That's what the God-given right to bear cakes gives you protection against. If I'm in that environment and I see a bun being used in a threatening manner then I'd be straight out with my concealed-carry frosted finger roll and the perpetrator gets a double-bap in the cranium.



Pit Pony

9,129 posts

127 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Biggy Stardust said:
She presumes that people are incapable of exercising choice as to whether they eat the cake.
I was once a student (38 years ago) And skint.

Free food, is a particular problem I've noticed with my weight. Workplace buffet lunch meetings, cakes, pizza for the "team", samosas brought in by the 100s


Despite my age, and knowing that I don't need empty calories, I find it goes against my inner student and I find myself taking more than I should

anonymous-user

60 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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ScotHill said:
The occasional cake/donuts on someone's birthday is okay, but I regularly walked past teams in our office where there was constantly cakes, donuts, biscuits etc lying on top of one of the empty desks, every day. I'd be happy with a workplace rule that said special occasions only, if you want your donuts outside of that go and eat them outside the fire exit. smile
I agree that occasional is fine, but some places just can't help themselves.

As a consultant, I once worked in Scotland for a housing provider just outside Edinburgh for 6 months, and the team/office I was sitting in were absolutely horrendous for junk food. They took it in turns on a daily basis to come in with bags full of doughnuts, muffins, sausage rolls, cakes, boxes of biscuits, and loads of savoury stuff and pies from the local butchers/bakers.

The worst thing they used to buy, but they saw it as a real treat, was 'scotch pie rolls'. A butchers scotch pie in pastry, placed in a very large white bread bun, with lashings of butter and ketchup. Yep, you read that right, a pie inside a buttered bun.

Needless to say out of the 8 of them in the team, probably 5 of them were easily described as fat. I think they actually took offence to me saying "No thank you" to their daily offers of 'treats'.

BoRED S2upid

20,211 posts

246 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Mammasaid said:
Bringing cake into the office should be seen as harmful to your colleagues in the same way as passive smoking, the chairwoman of Britain’s top food watchdog has said.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/times-health-co...
Excellent news. I never did understand this. It’s your birthday they buy you cake not you buy everyone else cake.

garagewidow

1,502 posts

176 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Trouble is by the time the danger is realised it's too late to worry about passive icing.

ScotHill

3,439 posts

115 months

Wednesday 18th January 2023
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Lord Marylebone said:
I agree that occasional is fine, but some places just can't help themselves.

As a consultant, I once worked in Scotland for a housing provider just outside Edinburgh for 6 months, and the team/office I was sitting in were absolutely horrendous for junk food. They took it in turns on a daily basis to come in with bags full of doughnuts, muffins, sausage rolls, cakes, boxes of biscuits, and loads of savoury stuff and pies from the local butchers/bakers.

The worst thing they used to buy, but they saw it as a real treat, was 'scotch pie rolls'. A butchers scotch pie in pastry, placed in a very large white bread bun, with lashings of butter and ketchup. Yep, you read that right, a pie inside a buttered bun.

Needless to say out of the 8 of them in the team, probably 5 of them were easily described as fat. I think they actually took offence to me saying "No thank you" to their daily offers of 'treats'.