It's all kicking off in Brazil
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Tannedbaldhead said:
Inspired by Trump perhaps. Tragic. valiant said:
Echos of Jan 6th…
A lot worse. Brazil has a history of military interventions with the Generals siding with the Right.There's a good chance that regardless of where the evidence points with the vote count the military will take a view that the subsequent unrest triggered by Bolsonaro supporters will require a military takeover to restore peace.
Should that happen the policies implemented by this new junta will be very much to the approval of Bolsonaro and very much to the horror of of Lula and the majority of Brazilians (abeit a small majority) who voted for him.
Tannedbaldhead said:
Why is it frightening? I’m not the least bit frightened by something done by a few hundred protesters thousands of miles away. BoRED S2upid said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
Why is it frightening? I’m not the least bit frightened by something done by a few hundred protesters thousands of miles away. TDK-C60 said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
Inspired by Trump perhaps. Tragic. Alternatively, inspired by this bunch who don't accept a democratic vote either
HD Adam said:
TDK-C60 said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
Inspired by Trump perhaps. Tragic. Alternatively, inspired by this bunch who don't accept a democratic vote either
TX.
OldGermanHeaps said:
Or this shower of 
s up in scotland screeching demanding another referndum because their "once in a lifetime" referendum didn't go as planned.
Odd, your idea of reality (and democracy) seems to be as bendable as the views of those protestors.s up in scotland screeching demanding another referndum because their "once in a lifetime" referendum didn't go as planned. Only your view and outcome seems to count. Just casually forgetting that it was old England who took Scotland out of the EU for instance.
Besides, just the idea that as a country your ruled from and in large by another is more than enough to make your statement utterly ridiculous.
HD Adam said:
TDK-C60 said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
Inspired by Trump perhaps. Tragic. Alternatively, inspired by this bunch who don't accept a democratic vote either
Of course not. To draw parallels between those people and the January 6th rioters or those storming Brasilia is unmitigated drivel.
skwdenyer said:
HD Adam said:
TDK-C60 said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
Inspired by Trump perhaps. Tragic. Alternatively, inspired by this bunch who don't accept a democratic vote either
Of course not. To draw parallels between those people and the January 6th rioters or those storming Brasilia is unmitigated drivel.
Looks a bit silly now 2/3 of the UK realise it was a daft decision too. They were right and patriotic to ask for a rethink (peacefully).
TDK-C60 said:
Talentless moron Clare Fox made the same point.
Looks a bit silly now 2/3 of the UK realise it was a daft decision too. They were right and patriotic to ask for a rethink (peacefully).
Fox's exact words were..Looks a bit silly now 2/3 of the UK realise it was a daft decision too. They were right and patriotic to ask for a rethink (peacefully).
"This trend - to refuse to support democratic ideal of losers' consent if election result doesn't go your way (which we have seen here in UK post referendum, and of course in US) - taken to its logical extreme. Very dangerous."
Assuming you acknowledge the last seven words what there do you take issue with? What about it is incorrect?
bobbo89 said:
TDK-C60 said:
Talentless moron Clare Fox made the same point.
Looks a bit silly now 2/3 of the UK realise it was a daft decision too. They were right and patriotic to ask for a rethink (peacefully).
Fox's exact words were..Looks a bit silly now 2/3 of the UK realise it was a daft decision too. They were right and patriotic to ask for a rethink (peacefully).
"This trend - to refuse to support democratic ideal of losers' consent if election result doesn't go your way (which we have seen here in UK post referendum, and of course in US) - taken to its logical extreme. Very dangerous."
Assuming you acknowledge the last seven words what there do you take issue with? What about it is incorrect?
Are you comparing debates in parliament to 6th Jan too?
Or do you mean the rise in “go home” and “send em back” rhetoric against foreigners in the UK etc. post vote?
Clare Fox fan by any chance?
Edited by TDK-C60 on Monday 9th January 06:39
TDK-C60 said:
bobbo89 said:
TDK-C60 said:
Talentless moron Clare Fox made the same point.
Looks a bit silly now 2/3 of the UK realise it was a daft decision too. They were right and patriotic to ask for a rethink (peacefully).
Fox's exact words were..Looks a bit silly now 2/3 of the UK realise it was a daft decision too. They were right and patriotic to ask for a rethink (peacefully).
"This trend - to refuse to support democratic ideal of losers' consent if election result doesn't go your way (which we have seen here in UK post referendum, and of course in US) - taken to its logical extreme. Very dangerous."
Assuming you acknowledge the last seven words what there do you take issue with? What about it is incorrect?
Are you comparing debates in parliament to 6th Jan too?
Or do you mean the rise in “go home” and “send em back” rhetoric against foreigners in the UK etc. post vote?
A peaceful protest against the result of an election or referendum, as peaceful as it may be, is still a refusal to accept the result of democracy. The peaceful protests not may be harmful or result in anything but they are still a symptom of a trend to refuse the result of a democratic vote.
She is saying that refusing to accept democracy is dangerous. What about that are you disagreeing with?
And no, I'm not a fan but on seeing your comment I thought I'd seek out what she'd said...
Edited by bobbo89 on Monday 9th January 06:44
bobbo89 said:
I think you're misunderstanding her comment, what she is saying is that what is happening in Brazil is the same refusal to accept democracy but taken to it's logical extreme.
A peaceful protest against the result of an election or referendum, as peaceful as it may be, is still a refusal to accept the result of democracy. The peaceful protests not may be harmful or result in anything but they are still a symptom of a trend to refuse the result of a democratic vote.
No she is trying to conflate 6 Jan riots and “remoaners” pointing out brexit is a mistake as she is a rabble rousing idiot. A peaceful protest against the result of an election or referendum, as peaceful as it may be, is still a refusal to accept the result of democracy. The peaceful protests not may be harmful or result in anything but they are still a symptom of a trend to refuse the result of a democratic vote.
What do you like most about her - her support for brexit or her communist roots?
Edited by TDK-C60 on Monday 9th January 06:48
HD Adam said:
TDK-C60 said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
Inspired by Trump perhaps. Tragic. Alternatively, inspired by this bunch who don't accept a democratic vote either
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