BBC “rewriting British history to promote a woke agenda”

BBC “rewriting British history to promote a woke agenda”

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Diderot

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7,962 posts

198 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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From The Telegraph this morning:


‘The BBC is “rewriting British history to promote a woke agenda”, a group of the country’s leading academics has warned, as they cited multiple examples of “bias” in its documentaries.

A report said the BBC was failing in its duty of impartiality by allowing “politically motivated campaigners” to present “tendentious” views of British history as fact.

Lord Roberts, the author and broadcaster, accused the BBC of pursuing a “fatwa” against Sir Winston Churchill. The dossier said documentaries on subjects including slavery, colonialism and the Irish famine distort the truth about Britain’s past through inaccuracy or omitting important facts.

Marie Kawthar Daouda, a lecturer at Oxford University, said the BBC needs to “stop apologising” for Britain’s history. Jeremy Black, the former professor of history at Exeter University, said the BBC was guilty of “systemic failure” through an inability to present a rounded picture of the past.’

The report was compiled by History Reclaimed, whose co-editors are David Abulafia and Robert Tombs - both of whom are professors emeritus at Cambridge University. Supporters of the organisation include Lord Chartres, the former bishop of London; Vernon Bogdanor, professor of government at King’s College, London; Niall Ferguson, the broadcaster and fellow of Stanford University, and Lawrence Goldman, emeritus fellow of St Peter’s College’.



Surely can’t be true. Who would’ve thunk it?

bitchstewie

54,591 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Pretty hard to take an article complaining about bias seriously when it uses words like "fatwa".

Eric Mc

122,701 posts

271 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Says the Daily Telegraph.

What would you expect from that quarter?

oyster

12,824 posts

254 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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bhstewie said:
Pretty hard to take an article complaining about bias seriously when it uses words like "fatwa".
Indeed.

And I didn’t see an alternative view or reply in that article in the Telegraph either - unless OP can clarify otherwise?

Frik

13,547 posts

249 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Is History Reclaimed another Tufton Street outfit or not? It's difficult to keep up with all these pressure groups.

bitchstewie

54,591 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Eric Mc said:
Says the Daily Telegraph.

What would you expect from that quarter?
Honestly the opinion columns are barking (and I think similar of many that are in the Guardian before anyone goes off down that rabbit hole).

It's just a slightly posher version of the Daily Mail trying to scare people.

"Woke hypocrites should prepare to be cancelled" is another of todays gems.

They're obsessed with it to the point that you can almost open their website and search for "woke" the same way you can "Meghan" on the Daily Mail.

Vanden Saab

14,706 posts

80 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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bhstewie said:
Pretty hard to take an article complaining about bias seriously when it uses words like "fatwa".
Yes. Ignoring the messenger what do you think of the report by some of the countries top historians.

Al Gorithum

4,105 posts

214 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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I get the impression that more and more people are becoming Woke to the BS that the Telegraph and Daily Mail publish. Shame that didn't happen before the Brexit referendum but here we are...

bitchstewie

54,591 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Vanden Saab said:
Yes. Ignoring the messenger what do you think of the report by some of the countries top historians.
I expect in some cases they may have a point but I'd also expect the "countries top historians" that present or are are involved in many of the BBCs programs would disagree.

I don't know enough about history to know who's right and who isn't but I'm very sceptical that these "reclaimed" type groups just want things to be told their way whilst I tend to think history is history whether it's good or bad.

I think you lose the argument a little if as a "top historian" you have to resort to accusations of a "fatwa" against one of our greatest Prime Ministers.

105.4

4,189 posts

77 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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I was mentioning on another thread only yesterday about how it’s almost always the same tribal group of posters / members who unfailing rush to the defence of ‘their cause’, no matter what, whilst often providing no evidence, little evidence, or the most tenuous of reasons why any criticism isn’t correct.

And once again, here we are, with many of the same posters doing the same thing once again.

“The criticism of the BBC is bullst….just because”.

I’d have thought that such a highly intelligent group of individuals would have been able to quite easily compile a bunch of reasons why this report is incorrect, but it would seem that isn’t possible.

hairykrishna

13,478 posts

209 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Vanden Saab said:
Yes. Ignoring the messenger what do you think of the report by some of the countries top historians.
What do you think? Have you read it?

oyster

12,824 posts

254 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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105.4 said:
I was mentioning on another thread only yesterday about how it’s almost always the same tribal group of posters / members who unfailing rush to the defence of ‘their cause’, no matter what, whilst often providing no evidence, little evidence, or the most tenuous of reasons why any criticism isn’t correct.

And once again, here we are, with many of the same posters doing the same thing once again.

“The criticism of the BBC is bullst….just because”.

I’d have thought that such a highly intelligent group of individuals would have been able to quite easily compile a bunch of reasons why this report is incorrect, but it would seem that isn’t possible.
Scarily you could change maybe half a dozen words in your reply and it would apply equally to a separate ‘faction’ on PH (of which perhaps you’re a member, I don’t know).

Either way as someone who detests tribalism and binary arguments, it saddens me.

colin_p

4,503 posts

218 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Al Gorithum said:
I get the impression that more and more people are becoming Woke to the BS that the Telegraph and Daily Mail publish. Shame that didn't happen before the Brexit referendum but here we are...
Look out the window and stop reading the guardian, the complete opposite is happening.



Diderot

Original Poster:

7,962 posts

198 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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By the way, here’s a link to the report.

It’s pretty damning: https://historyreclaimed.co.uk/can-we-trust-the-bb...


Al Gorithum

4,105 posts

214 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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colin_p said:
Al Gorithum said:
I get the impression that more and more people are becoming Woke to the BS that the Telegraph and Daily Mail publish. Shame that didn't happen before the Brexit referendum but here we are...
Look out the window and stop reading the guardian, the complete opposite is happening.
You know what they say about assumptions?

Master Of Puppets

3,412 posts

68 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Viewers have been sussing for years the impartiality of the BBC, one of the reasons why their viewing figures have plummeted and
continue to do so. The drop in revenue from the TV license must be hitting them hard.

gregs656

11,226 posts

187 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Here’s an overview of History Reclaimed - https://blogs.sussex.ac.uk/snapshotsofempire/2021/...

Eric Mc

122,701 posts

271 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Mick Lynch of the RMT thinks the BBC is a hot bed of right wing bias and just parrots the right wing press.

Idiots with biased views always see the BBC as being biased AGAINST their biased views - whichever side of the argument they are on.

captain_cynic

13,057 posts

101 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Diderot said:
By the way, here’s a link to the report.

It’s pretty damning: https://historyreclaimed.co.uk/can-we-trust-the-bb...
So a bunch of randoms with an axe to grind.

"Tombs is the editor of History Reclaimed,[22] a website created by a "group of anti-woke scholars" that opposes what they claim to be censorship of historical texts"

Basically a bunch of people with no evidence and an agenda.hoping to get enough people who don't know any better and are triggered by "Woke".

The irony is, "historyreclaimed" is trying to do exactly what they accuse others of, rewriting history.

valiant

11,188 posts

166 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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Any group that uses words like ‘woke’ or ‘anti-woke’ loses all credibility.

Just more BBC bashing because any bias perceived doesn’t match their own bias.