M62 crash - 23rd Dec - Supercar?

M62 crash - 23rd Dec - Supercar?

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Wilmslowboy

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4,293 posts

212 months

Sunday 25th December 2022
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Apologises if it’s already posted.

Unfortunately passenger killed, driver seriously injured, car flipped on its roof and caught fire - 4:20 AM.


Some local rumours it was a rented Lamborghini.



https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire...



MarkJS

1,703 posts

153 months

Sunday 25th December 2022
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The area where I live was affected badly as the M62 was shut for over 12 hours. When I’d heard there was a single car involved I did think about the possibility of kids racing. It wasn’t long ago that someone trashed a rented Lamborghini (in flames) a few miles further back at Brighouse. It seems they rent them in Bradford and use the the M62 towards Manchester as a proving ground. Luckily, no innocent road users have been caught up in the previous couple of incidents as far as I’m aware.

Juanco20

3,250 posts

199 months

Sunday 25th December 2022
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MarkJS said:
The area where I live was affected badly as the M62 was shut for over 12 hours. When I’d heard there was a single car involved I did think about the possibility of kids racing. It wasn’t long ago that someone trashed a rented Lamborghini (in flames) a few miles further back at Brighouse. It seems they rent them in Bradford and use the the M62 towards Manchester as a proving ground. Luckily, no innocent road users have been caught up in the previous couple of incidents as far as I’m aware.
My family know of the person who was crashed in to by the Lamborghini at Junction 25. The lambo came up the slip road, lost control, went over the curb, straight across the motorway and this chap slammed straight in to them. Broke his chest bone and a few other bits but largely ok. The lambo passenger had to be dragged out and given CPR but survived. The driver has denied any wrong doing (guessing he is claiming a car malfunction of some sort) and so it is with the insurers to decide. Not sure what action the police took.

I see it all the time though as my commute is Huddersfield to Leeds. The amount of expensive vehicles exiting and joining at junction 26 (Bradford) is ridiculous. Rare to see them being driven sensibly

av185

19,150 posts

133 months

Sunday 25th December 2022
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Looks like yet another very bent poorly rebuilt and somewhat scorched ex rental Lambo will soon be gracing the oily forcourts of another dodgy and infamous Yorkshire used car dealer and upholding the stereotype. rolleyes


gazza285

10,113 posts

214 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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It wasn’t the 23rd, and from what I saw of the car, it will never be on the road again, the fire hadn’t left much left.

gazza285

10,113 posts

214 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Juanco20 said:
MarkJS said:
The area where I live was affected badly as the M62 was shut for over 12 hours. When I’d heard there was a single car involved I did think about the possibility of kids racing. It wasn’t long ago that someone trashed a rented Lamborghini (in flames) a few miles further back at Brighouse. It seems they rent them in Bradford and use the the M62 towards Manchester as a proving ground. Luckily, no innocent road users have been caught up in the previous couple of incidents as far as I’m aware.
My family know of the person who was crashed in to by the Lamborghini at Junction 25. The lambo came up the slip road, lost control, went over the curb, straight across the motorway and this chap slammed straight in to them. Broke his chest bone and a few other bits but largely ok. The lambo passenger had to be dragged out and given CPR but survived. The driver has denied any wrong doing (guessing he is claiming a car malfunction of some sort) and so it is with the insurers to decide. Not sure what action the police took.

I see it all the time though as my commute is Huddersfield to Leeds. The amount of expensive vehicles exiting and joining at junction 26 (Bradford) is ridiculous. Rare to see them being driven sensibly
I drive through the same stretch everyday as well, I have no idea what you are on about. What sort of expensive and badly driven vehicles are you on about?

mike74

3,687 posts

138 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Juanco20 said:
The driver has denied any wrong doing (guessing he is claiming a car malfunction of some sort) and so it is with the insurers to decide.
Highly unlikely that the driver or the ''rental company'' they supposedly ''hired'' it from will have valid, legitimate insurance.

Wilmslowboy

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4,293 posts

212 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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gazza285 said:
It wasn’t the 23rd, and from what I saw of the car, it will never be on the road again, the fire hadn’t left much left.
Correct - looks like it happened early morning Wednesday - 21st

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

42 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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gazza285 said:
It wasn’t the 23rd, and from what I saw of the car, it will never be on the road again, the fire hadn’t left much left.

In that part of the world as long as there is a vin number it will be back on the road !!!

Juanco20

3,250 posts

199 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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gazza285 said:
I drive through the same stretch everyday as well, I have no idea what you are on about. What sort of expensive and badly driven vehicles are you on about?
M series BMW, RS series Audis, AMG series mercs, many of which can be in excess of £100k driven by young Asian men. They will usually sweep across from the outside lane at high speed just in time to make the 26 exit slip road.

Less regularly but I've also been in a train of supercars from 26 to 24. On those occassions they've had ribbons etc on some of them so I'm assuming they hire on mass for a wedding.

The Lambo involved in the crash earlier this year was part of a group of expensive cars seen causing disruption in Mirfield only an hour or so earlier. Just parked up on a busy road, revving away etc with zero disregard for every other road user.

voyds9

8,489 posts

289 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Can someone explain the business model to me.

You get a £200k car, you rent it someone who doesn't look capable of controlling an 850 Mini
It ends up through a wall or something similar

As a one off you may see it as an accident but there seems to be enough to make headlines on a monthly basis. There must be even more that have 'minor' damage. So where is the business?

Is it laundering scam. Use illegal money to buy a car, wreck it, get a payout (put money into your bank). Then you have legitimate money

Previous

1,493 posts

160 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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voyds9 said:
Can someone explain the business model to me.

You get a £200k car, you rent it someone who doesn't look capable of controlling an 850 Mini
It ends up through a wall or something similar

As a one off you may see it as an accident but there seems to be enough to make headlines on a monthly basis. There must be even more that have 'minor' damage. So where is the business?

Is it laundering scam. Use illegal money to buy a car, wreck it, get a payout (put money into your bank). Then you have legitimate money
You buy a supercar, rent it out. You book more cash payment rentals than you actually have. Every now and again someone crashes the car, but thats just a cost of doing business.



Hugo Stiglitz

38,038 posts

217 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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av185 said:
Looks like yet another very bent poorly rebuilt and somewhat scorched ex rental Lambo will soon be gracing the oily forcourts of another dodgy and infamous Yorkshire used car dealer and upholding the stereotype. rolleyes

No I saw the car. I wouldn't want to describe it to anyone.



I had a 2hour diversion due to this. Sadly a family have lost a son. RIP.

Its Just Adz

14,810 posts

215 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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gazza285 said:
It wasn’t the 23rd, and from what I saw of the car, it will never be on the road again, the fire hadn’t left much left.
Yea I saw it too, couldn't even guess what car it was from the view.
Nothing left of it.

mike74

3,687 posts

138 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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voyds9 said:
Can someone explain the business model to me.

You get a £200k car, you rent it someone who doesn't look capable of controlling an 850 Mini
It ends up through a wall or something similar

As a one off you may see it as an accident but there seems to be enough to make headlines on a monthly basis. There must be even more that have 'minor' damage. So where is the business?

Is it laundering scam. Use illegal money to buy a car, wreck it, get a payout (put money into your bank). Then you have legitimate money
These definitely aren't legitimate hire companies and in fact I doubt a stranger who isn't part of the local ''community'' in that area would even be able to ''hire'' a car from them, as you say it will be some form of money laundering operation or in some other way fraudulent, just like all the fake insurance brokers and notorious car dealers who all operate within the same local ''community''

julianm

1,581 posts

207 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Just normal `beyond the law` attitude & behaviour in that location.

MarkJS

1,703 posts

153 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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julianm said:
Just normal `beyond the law` attitude & behaviour in that location.
I’m afraid so - the city and it’s suburbs are an utter dump & in my experience, the place is virtually lawless. I also believe it’s beyond rescue.

Wills2

23,967 posts

181 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Previous said:
voyds9 said:
Can someone explain the business model to me.

You get a £200k car, you rent it someone who doesn't look capable of controlling an 850 Mini
It ends up through a wall or something similar

As a one off you may see it as an accident but there seems to be enough to make headlines on a monthly basis. There must be even more that have 'minor' damage. So where is the business?

Is it laundering scam. Use illegal money to buy a car, wreck it, get a payout (put money into your bank). Then you have legitimate money
You buy a supercar, rent it out. You book more cash payment rentals than you actually have. Every now and again someone crashes the car, but thats just a cost of doing business.
Yep when you have lots of money that you can't declare taking a hit on it to clean it up is a cost of doing business, now that they can't take it to the Bradford Natwest branch in bin liners anymore as they were doing.

Such a shame that they let this stuff go on for so long it's now deeply entrenched and will only get worse, mind you all the middle class reactional drug users in the better parts are fuelling it and are as much as an issue as the drug gangs and money launderers.






andymc

7,415 posts

213 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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So was the driver only 20? I thought the insurance always stated over 25’s?

Whistle

1,484 posts

139 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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