Modern Slavery

[Greenmantle]

Jeez

Surely confiscation of estate is order of the day for this sort of evil?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11566083/...

[Astacus]

I don’t think judges are entitled to randomly select punishments out of thin air, much as it seems appropriate.

I hope the woman concerned is entitled to sue her for the 80k plus interest and damages.

Don’t recall whether one can be tried and sued under the same facts. Maybe someone could enlighten me?

[pork911]

potentially attempt to pursue a POCA order?

[s1962a]

Only got 6 years? She destroyed that womans life and forced her to work as a slave. Punishments for this should be much tougher.

[mac96]

Modern slavery just seems to attract less attention than historic slavery. Witness lack of interest in this thread.

So much easier to complain about the past than to actually do anything about the present. But I suppose I am not doing anything to fight modern slavery either, so who am I to pontificate.

[rodericb]

mac96 said:

Modern slavery just seems to attract less attention than historic slavery. Witness lack of interest in this thread.

So much easier to complain about the past than to actually do anything about the present. But I suppose I am not doing anything to fight modern slavery either, so who am I to pontificate.

It's more a corporate thing. Go on junkets around the world to ask suppliers in far off lands if they have any slaves on the payroll. The answer is invariably "no" and then said corporates can say they've tackled modern slavery and stick it in their ESG report.

[Dingu]

mac96 said:

Modern slavery just seems to attract less attention than historic slavery. Witness lack of interest in this thread.

So much easier to complain about the past than to actually do anything about the present. But I suppose I am not doing anything to fight modern slavery either, so who am I to pontificate.

It’s like comparing genocide to murder. It was nation sponsored on a huge scale. So no, not really comparable to this case however horrific.

[mac96]

Of course there is a difference of scale and state culpability but there is an irony in current anti slavery protestors potentially walking past current slaves to chuck a statue of some long dead beneficiary of slavery in the past into the sea.


I have seen estimates of 130,000 slaves in the UK now, so it is not trivial, albeit not on the past scale.

[Previous]

Dingu said:

It’s like comparing genocide to murder. It was nation sponsored on a huge scale. So no, not really comparable to this case however horrific.

Various estimates put the the total number of slaves taken from Africa between the 1500's to the abolition at between 5-12.5 Million.

Similarly, its estimated that a total up to 10 Million slaves lived in America alone.

Of course it's hard to know accurate numbers.

Let's double those numbers, assume 45 Million.

Thats still less than the International Labour Organisation estimate live in slavery right now, today, at over 49 Million.

Now, okay, this victim hasn't lived her whole life in slavery (unlike others past and current) however let's not underplay the scale of the issue in current times.

Edited by Previous on Saturday 24th December 10:10

[MKnight702]

Slavery reparations should be an international law.

I'm not talking about the BLM nonsense about paying all black people "reparations" by taxing white people, but anyone found guilty of keeping another person in slavery should pay reparations of not less than twice an equivalent salary for the time that the slave was kept. This would be on top of any prison time that the slave keeper should face.

That ought to help wipe the smirk off the face of that awful woman Farzana Kausar.

[pquinn]

mac96 said:

Of course there is a difference of scale and state culpability but there is an irony in current anti slavery protestors potentially walking past current slaves to chuck a statue of some long dead beneficiary of slavery in the past into the sea.


I have seen estimates of 130,000 slaves in the UK now, so it is not trivial, albeit not on the past scale.

Probably some inconvenient truths to be found in who is holding the 'modern' slaves.

[Gecko1978]

pquinn said:

mac96 said:

Of course there is a difference of scale and state culpability but there is an irony in current anti slavery protestors potentially walking past current slaves to chuck a statue of some long dead beneficiary of slavery in the past into the sea.


I have seen estimates of 130,000 slaves in the UK now, so it is not trivial, albeit not on the past scale.

Probably some inconvenient truths to be found in who is holding the 'modern' slaves.

There may well be an element of that. But next time you buy some clothing for under £10 or less ask how it was made and shipped halfway around the world...