Man who strangled girlfriend jailed for life

[s1962a]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershi...

What a horrible and senseless act.

How come he only gets 23 years? Now I understand "life" doesn't always mean life, but he'll be out when he's 53. Look at what he did - why wouldn't this deserve a full term in prison?

BBC Article said:

A man who strangled his girlfriend and cut her throat 14 times before dumping her body in undergrowth has been jailed for life for murder.

[Earthdweller]

I imagine that’s the minimum period he must serve before he can apply for parole, and there’s no guarantee he would be successful

It doesn’t mean that he will automatically be released after 23 years

[Oliver Hardy]

Earthdweller said:

I imagine that’s the minimum period he must serve before he can apply for parole, and there’s no guarantee he would be successful

It doesn’t mean that he will automatically be released after 23 years

True, while I am against the death sentence people who murder should not be allowed a life. He will ne only 53 when he might get out.

Edited to read should not

Edited by Oliver Hardy on Friday 16th December 13:39

[s1962a]

I understand the bit about parole, but with good behaviour/playing the system he could be out when he's 53. This guy does not seem all there - would you really want him out and free?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershi...

[skwdenyer]

s1962a said:

I understand the bit about parole, but with good behaviour/playing the system he could be out when he's 53. This guy does not seem all there - would you really want him out and free?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershi...

If he's not all there, he won't be allowed out. Beyond the obvious retribution bit (and, frankly, I don't have a problem with people getting second chances later in life after paying their debt to society), I don't see what the concern is.

[survivalist]

skwdenyer said:

s1962a said:

I understand the bit about parole, but with good behaviour/playing the system he could be out when he's 53. This guy does not seem all there - would you really want him out and free?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershi...

If he's not all there, he won't be allowed out. Beyond the obvious retribution bit (and, frankly, I don't have a problem with people getting second chances later in life after paying their debt to society), I don't see what the concern is.

Knowing several people who work in the probation service, I’d suggest there every chance he’ll be allowed out even if he’s ‘not all there’.

Still, it’s a long way away, maybe things will have changed by them.

[Oliver Hardy]

skwdenyer said:

s1962a said:

I understand the bit about parole, but with good behaviour/playing the system he could be out when he's 53. This guy does not seem all there - would you really want him out and free?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershi...

If he's not all there, he won't be allowed out. Beyond the obvious retribution bit (and, frankly, I don't have a problem with people getting second chances later in life after paying their debt to society), I don't see what the concern is.

But should the debt be the same plus interest? If he took away a life his debt should be life!

[R56Cooper]

Oliver Hardy said:

skwdenyer said:

s1962a said:

I understand the bit about parole, but with good behaviour/playing the system he could be out when he's 53. This guy does not seem all there - would you really want him out and free?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershi...

If he's not all there, he won't be allowed out. Beyond the obvious retribution bit (and, frankly, I don't have a problem with people getting second chances later in life after paying their debt to society), I don't see what the concern is.

But should the debt be the same plus interest? If he took away a life his debt should be life!

Yep I'm with you there, life should be life for murder. Yes, there's a big cost to imprisonment and prisons are full etc but for that sort of crime they should never see freedom again.

I'm also in favour of the death penalty for those truly horrible crimes where the offender admits full responsibility, thinking about that monster who ambushed two female cops and shot them to death before throwing grenades at them.

[skwdenyer]

Oliver Hardy said:

skwdenyer said:

s1962a said:

I understand the bit about parole, but with good behaviour/playing the system he could be out when he's 53. This guy does not seem all there - would you really want him out and free?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershi...

If he's not all there, he won't be allowed out. Beyond the obvious retribution bit (and, frankly, I don't have a problem with people getting second chances later in life after paying their debt to society), I don't see what the concern is.

But should the debt be the same plus interest? If he took away a life his debt should be life!

I’ve seen no evidence anywhere in the world that suggests such an approach achieves anything.

I hate that murders happen. But I think there are better outcomes for society as a whole than throw away the key.

[Ntv]

R56Cooper said:

Oliver Hardy said:

skwdenyer said:

s1962a said:

I understand the bit about parole, but with good behaviour/playing the system he could be out when he's 53. This guy does not seem all there - would you really want him out and free?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershi...

If he's not all there, he won't be allowed out. Beyond the obvious retribution bit (and, frankly, I don't have a problem with people getting second chances later in life after paying their debt to society), I don't see what the concern is.

But should the debt be the same plus interest? If he took away a life his debt should be life!

Yep I'm with you there, life should be life for murder. Yes, there's a big cost to imprisonment and prisons are full etc but for that sort of crime they should never see freedom again.

I'm also in favour of the death penalty for those truly horrible crimes where the offender admits full responsibility, thinking about that monster who ambushed two female cops and shot them to death before throwing grenades at them.

The problem then is you've created a huge disincentive to admit guilt.

For some cases where there is zero doubt - say Thomas Hamilton hadn't killed himself - I agree re the death penalty.