Water Leak into Gas Pipe Stannington Sheffield

Water Leak into Gas Pipe Stannington Sheffield

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FiF

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45,269 posts

257 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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Blimey, what a shambles.

In short, mains water leak, gas mains also affected, water gets into gas supply for about 2000 properties on Friday. Water coming out of meters, boilers, hobs etc. Place without gas since. Even though pipe repairs done, have to drain and get water out of gas supply pipes, and then start fixing all the appliances that have been damaged. Thursday nearly a week later and only about a quarter have had some gas restored.

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/stannington-sheffie...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorksh...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/12/07/major-...

RicksAlfas

13,576 posts

250 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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It was the water pouring out of the gas appliances I couldn't get over. People's cookers and boilers pissing water everywhere.
Lots of new smart meters needed too! Terrible at any time of the year, but now it's dropped cold it must be utterly miserable. Yorkshire Water are getting a bit of stick as leaks have been an ongoing problem in this area apparently.

(I'm not local to it, but it was on our regional news).

Dingu

4,216 posts

36 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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No more than a petrol station fire demonstrates ICE being a bad idea tbh.

RicksAlfas

13,576 posts

250 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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In the future whenever we are short on electricity, restrictions will have to be put in place and electric car charging is an obvious one to ease the load. Switzerland are looking at draft proposals for such an eventuality. https://www.electrive.com/2022/12/02/switzerland-r...

But I'm not sure it has much to do with Doris in Stannington getting water coming out of her gas fire!

RogerDodgerSuperTodger

5,069 posts

192 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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anonymous said:
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No more than a petrol station fire demonstrates ICE being a bad idea tbh.
You appear, dear boy, to have missed the point that I was trying to make.

2000 HOMES cut off from their primary source of heating and cooking causes a shortage of the 'cleaner' electricity......

A single filling station catching fire will only inconvienience a few motorists.....
Do you think the ‘rush to all electric power’ means they just turn the gas off one day, at random?

RogerDodgerSuperTodger

5,069 posts

192 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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anonymous said:
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anonymous said:
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anonymous said:
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No more than a petrol station fire demonstrates ICE being a bad idea tbh.
You appear, dear boy, to have missed the point that I was trying to make.

2000 HOMES cut off from their primary source of heating and cooking causes a shortage of the 'cleaner' electricity......

A single filling station catching fire will only inconvienience a few motorists.....
Do you think the ‘rush to all electric power’ means they just turn the gas off one day, at random?
That's exactly what they appear to have done in this location!
And it appears to have proved that electricity generation within GB is woefully inadequate.

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Well your response tells us something at least wink

Evanivitch

21,716 posts

128 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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anonymous said:
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Heat. Pumps.

Say it with me slowly.

Heat. Pumps.

Evanivitch

21,716 posts

128 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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Are you a grounds keeper? I've never seen someone move the goalposts so quickly. There are heat pumps being fitted to existing homes across the country, the "new builds only" is some luddite mantra.

Many of these homes affected will likely have 60A fuses that will quickly become overwhelmed if people are trying to heat 2-4 rooms overnight with direct electric heating. Others may even have supplies looped with their neighbours. Both of these are issues being addressed by DNO, at no cost to home owners, as part of their upgrades in preparation for electric vehicle chargers and heat pumps. Of course, that's no comfort for the people that are currently deprived of their gas connection.

FiF

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45,269 posts

257 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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I think in your quest to be right on the Internet the background point behind the poster's comment about the electricity supply not coping in this unprecedented situation is just how far we have to go to get electricity supply fit for purpose.

That's fit for purpose on national and local scale, which also includes a lot of other work and disruption on existing properties where current tech heat pumps and associated systems would struggle, technically and economically.

Evanivitch

21,716 posts

128 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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FiF said:
I think in your quest to be right on the Internet the background point behind the poster's comment about the electricity supply not coping in this unprecedented situation is just how far we have to go to get electricity supply fit for purpose.

That's fit for purpose on national and local scale, which also includes a lot of other work and disruption on existing properties where current tech heat pumps and associated systems would struggle, technically and economically.
And yet that work is ongoing and being addressed as and where it's needed. As tragic as this situation is, it's not representative of the issues faced by increased domestic electrification.

FiF

Original Poster:

45,269 posts

257 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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Evanivitch said:
FiF said:
I think in your quest to be right on the Internet the background point behind the poster's comment about the electricity supply not coping in this unprecedented situation is just how far we have to go to get electricity supply fit for purpose.

That's fit for purpose on national and local scale, which also includes a lot of other work and disruption on existing properties where current tech heat pumps and associated systems would struggle, technically and economically.
And yet that work is ongoing and being addressed as and where it's needed. As tragic as this situation is, it's not representative of the issues faced by increased domestic electrification.
Clearly it's not representative, hence the use of the word unprecedented.

As for ongoing work to meet the timescale imposed by govt, we shall see.

55palfers

5,978 posts

170 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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Never mind bickering about heat pumps.

How long does anyone think will it take for 2000 homes to be completely sorted out?

I'm guessing lots of appliances will be toast and need replacing not just cleaned out.

Couldn't happen at a worse time of year too. Coldest weather for many months, Christmas on the horizon.

Poor buggers.

Sheepshanks

34,520 posts

125 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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FiF said:
Thursday nearly a week later and only about a quarter have had some gas restored.
Just a plain gas interuption is a nightmare to deal with - a medium size village near us lost supply due to a governor failure. It was quickly repaired but they have to go house to house and gain entry to make sure everything is turned off before they can turn the main back on. Just doing that took a week.

monkfish1

11,691 posts

230 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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RogerDodgerSuperTodger said:
anonymous said:
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anonymous said:
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No more than a petrol station fire demonstrates ICE being a bad idea tbh.
You appear, dear boy, to have missed the point that I was trying to make.

2000 HOMES cut off from their primary source of heating and cooking causes a shortage of the 'cleaner' electricity......

A single filling station catching fire will only inconvienience a few motorists.....
Do you think the ‘rush to all electric power’ means they just turn the gas off one day, at random?
Starmer has said he will. In 2030. But i guess thats not random. But totally mental nonetheless.

monkfish1

11,691 posts

230 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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What i dont understand, is how does the water get into a gas main? Which is under pressure.

Vanden Saab

14,706 posts

80 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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monkfish1 said:
What i dont understand, is how does the water get into a gas main? Which is under pressure.
Higher water main pressure...

Dingu

4,216 posts

36 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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anonymous said:
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anonymous said:
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No more than a petrol station fire demonstrates ICE being a bad idea tbh.
You appear, dear boy, to have missed the point that I was trying to make.

2000 HOMES cut off from their primary source of heating and cooking causes a shortage of the 'cleaner' electricity......

A single filling station catching fire will only inconvienience a few motorists.....
Largely due to you making your point so woefully then. Aside from the fact that it demonstrates no such thing. Your biases mislead you.

monkfish1

11,691 posts

230 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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Vanden Saab said:
monkfish1 said:
What i dont understand, is how does the water get into a gas main? Which is under pressure.
Higher water main pressure...
Really? even outside the pipe? What pressure does a gas main run at?

Regbuser

4,419 posts

41 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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The affected gas main was likely operating at 2 bar or less.

HiAsAKite

2,408 posts

253 months

Thursday 8th December 2022
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Regbuser said:
The affected gas main was likely operating at 2 bar or less.
It would be worse if it were the other way round - ie gas in the mains water supply...