2021 Census map
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Some fascinating viewing.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/census/maps/choropleth/iden...
Where I grew up, Slough, the population is now 32.3% white, with a historically diverse area nearby down to 9.0%. Slough (unitary area) as a whole is 36.0%. A very multicultural place, but always has been.
In contrast where I live now in Derbyshire is 100.0%, with the unitary authority area 97.4%. I don't believe in the 100% figure, and there are quite a few [edit - other 100% areas] nearby, surely cannot be right.
What is it like where you are?
https://www.ons.gov.uk/census/maps/choropleth/iden...
Where I grew up, Slough, the population is now 32.3% white, with a historically diverse area nearby down to 9.0%. Slough (unitary area) as a whole is 36.0%. A very multicultural place, but always has been.
In contrast where I live now in Derbyshire is 100.0%, with the unitary authority area 97.4%. I don't believe in the 100% figure, and there are quite a few [edit - other 100% areas] nearby, surely cannot be right.
What is it like where you are?
Edited by colin_p on Tuesday 29th November 18:26
Viewing the same for religion, % with NO religion
Slough overall 13.1%
Where I grew up 8.1%
And the most religious part of Slough I could find, only 3.2% were not religious.
Where I am now in Derbyshire 29.2%
The unitary area 42.7%
Holy moley, there must be a lot more farting in church than I thought there would be.
Slough overall 13.1%
Where I grew up 8.1%
And the most religious part of Slough I could find, only 3.2% were not religious.
Where I am now in Derbyshire 29.2%
The unitary area 42.7%
Holy moley, there must be a lot more farting in church than I thought there would be.
The inner city areas that have gone from basically 100% white to 90%+ non-white/other in a few generations I'm sure everyone has read about over the years.
The surprising stat to me was the Welsh Valeys appearing a hotspot for 'no religion', alongside Brighton & other areas you would have guessed.
The surprising stat to me was the Welsh Valeys appearing a hotspot for 'no religion', alongside Brighton & other areas you would have guessed.
mikef said:
Who runs the curry house?
I think they must commute from out of the area. Either that or they are not fond of filling in census forms.Kes Arevo said:
I used to go out with a girl from Luton and she was genuinely shocked when she first came up to the Wirral.
There are stark differences in places.
How so?There are stark differences in places.
Earthdweller said:
Fascinating that link where I grew up is now 97.2% Asian
Blimey.DaveCWK said:
The inner city areas that have gone from basically 100% white to 90%+ non-white/other in a few generations I'm sure everyone has read about over the years.
Amazing isn't it how they can afford to live in the inner cities, especially London, I couldn't afford to live there.Randy Winkman said:
It is a great link and shows one of the reasons why people can have such different perspectives on things. I say that as a resident in one of London's "whiter" boroughs. (76.5%)
Indeed, it starkly illustrates the phenomenon of white flight.colin_p said:
Kes Arevo said:
I used to go out with a girl from Luton and she was genuinely shocked when she first came up to the Wirral.
There are stark differences in places.
How so?There are stark differences in places.
I worked out of a port in Pakistan, as well as My.bai, and there are many high streets that resemble those places culturally, as opposed to high streets where I am from.
It's the same with Chinatown in Liverpool which is a stark difference to those of Pakistani areas.
It's merely a prevailing culture tjing.
RicksAlfas said:
colin_p said:
Indeed, it starkly illustrates the phenomenon of white flight.
I grew up in a smart predominantly white middle class area.35 years later it's now 3.2% white and routinely featured on Police Interceptors.
I'd suggest that that area is also deeply religious and should be a very safe place to live and virtually crime free.
Kes Arevo said:
I worked out of a port in Pakistan, as well as My.bai, and there are many high streets that resemble those places culturally, as opposed to high streets where I am from.
You mean people walked around in different clothes on UK high streets, or did you see other similarities too?colin_p said:
RicksAlfas said:
colin_p said:
Indeed, it starkly illustrates the phenomenon of white flight.
I grew up in a smart predominantly white middle class area.35 years later it's now 3.2% white and routinely featured on Police Interceptors.
I'd suggest that that area is also deeply religious and should be a very safe place to live and virtually crime free.
s1962a said:
colin_p said:
RicksAlfas said:
colin_p said:
Indeed, it starkly illustrates the phenomenon of white flight.
I grew up in a smart predominantly white middle class area.35 years later it's now 3.2% white and routinely featured on Police Interceptors.
I'd suggest that that area is also deeply religious and should be a very safe place to live and virtually crime free.
colin_p said:
What is it like where you are?
No idea. Unfortunately we had to have a special SNP census which was delayed by a year and which got a return rate lower than 80% in some areas. Edited by colin_p on Tuesday 29th November 18:26
So. No results yet. And the results we get won't be much good.
The lowest returns seem to match high SNP supporter areas.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/scotland-s-cen...
I suspect little change in my area. Described by a colleague as far too white.
Kes Arevo said:
I used to go out with a girl from Luton and she was genuinely shocked when she first came up to the Wirral.
There are stark differences in places.
Absolutely. Growing up on the Wirral I can actually remem ber the first time I saw a non white person. He may not have been the only black man in Bebington in 1961 but there certainly weren't many.There are stark differences in places.
I grew up on the outskirts of Leicester, in the 1980s.
Adults often remarked how "once nice" areas of Leicester had become places where overseas migrants were now living.
The implication that immigration had made them less desirable, and had caused this decline.
Many years later, I realised Leicester lost the wealth it had in the 1950s through a whole range of national and international factors.
Migrants from Asia and Africa were coming into inner cities, because
- properties were cheap, and that's all they could afford
- there was demand for low wage jobs nearby
So basically what I'm saying is that I grew up being taught migration "caused" the decline of inner city Leicester, but really it was just a symptom of the decline that has already happened.
The point is: looking at statistics is all well and good to see "what" is happening, but to understand "why" is usually more complicated (and more worthwhile imo)
Ian
Adults often remarked how "once nice" areas of Leicester had become places where overseas migrants were now living.
The implication that immigration had made them less desirable, and had caused this decline.
Many years later, I realised Leicester lost the wealth it had in the 1950s through a whole range of national and international factors.
Migrants from Asia and Africa were coming into inner cities, because
- properties were cheap, and that's all they could afford
- there was demand for low wage jobs nearby
So basically what I'm saying is that I grew up being taught migration "caused" the decline of inner city Leicester, but really it was just a symptom of the decline that has already happened.
The point is: looking at statistics is all well and good to see "what" is happening, but to understand "why" is usually more complicated (and more worthwhile imo)
Ian
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